Hamster Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 As I said way back in '09, I use 1/4 & 3/8, (not quite a half choke) in my O/U and I've never found the need to use anything tighter. I've tried tighter chokes but they don't work for me, I definitely get better quality breaks using more open chokes. You simply don't need 3/4 & Full with modern plaswad loaded ammo, fact. Cat. When I was writing my reply you happened to be one of very very few people I could think of who prefers less than half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Is there an official record for posting on an ancient thread? This one - at 6 1/2 years - would take some beating. I'm pretty sure we have had ones from 2003 and 2004 reappear in the last year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 When I was writing my reply you happened to be one of very very few people I could think of who prefers less than half. Well, at the French Compak champs near Bordeaux last year I choked down to skeet and quarter in 7 of the 8 layouts and still did a 186 ex 200, in fact my worst score was on the one layout that I stuck with quarter / 3/8..and on the simmo pairs there were a good few longish birds, but they broke OK with quarter, I suppose it's what you have confidence in, as you well know, shooting is a mental game..! Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B391 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I usually shoot a MK60 with fixed 1/4 and 3/4, if I miss it means I have to improve....I seem to have some way to go ! I also have a Remy 1100 with a skeet barrel and a short stock for my wife to shoot [when the sun is out and above 20C!!] which breaks most things but I agree the longer clays are the most missed. lack of skill or holes in the pattern? Most likely a bit if both I'd say, the important part is we are having fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 3/8 & 3/8 for me....... It's the pedigree I went for, Ex Mr Potter chokes.....they have been trained very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 the OP has not been on for nearly 2 years, i dont think he is reading your new replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Well at least it is talking about shooting views and idea's, not something just for the sake of it.. Regarding posting and reserecting old topics, Why add to it if you are not interested in giving a viable answer to the Question asked, and moun about people replying to quite emotive subject. Carry on boys, and lets all listen eh.?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 firstly mate, chokes have been done to death, secondly there are plenty of ideas already with out a load more of the same thing, not that im bothered but now just replying to you. and please please point out where you get that im moaning from? maybe the faces give it away that im hardly moaning,sorry if my input upset you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Lol,,, Was I talking about You, must have a guilty complex ?, No, as how it has been mentioned by monitors on here, if it isn'relevant why say anything at all. That was my point, So, leaving this to the guys who really have experiances they have to share.. My point is finished, carry on if You like.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Your comments are about as relevant as mine then, take your own advice pal. Now my point is finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 3/8 and 3/8 - still the best combination. Must dash - I have a few doors to kick in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B391 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Re picking up an old thread. This is new and interesting for me as a fairly new shooter and also quite new to this forum. Nothing wrong with resurrecting an old thread if it is valid. I was already asking myself these questions and I now feel better informed. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scattergun12Gge43 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Heres another one to get u thinking and talking buy yourself a choke gauge and measure them not one will measure what is stamped on them i have several sets of chokes acquired from buying s/hand semi autos out of six sets of chokes one is as stamped being Angleport the worst being Briley and Comp n choke every Teague is tighter than stamped Jess Briley and mr Teague being the godfathers of choking. .My point being there is nothing exact about choking it depends just as much on your barrel and choice of cartridge i have a Briley SK choke which throws almost full on the pattern plate Its good to talk just dont take it to seriously Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Heres another one to get u thinking and talking buy yourself a choke gauge and measure them not one will measure what is stamped on them i have several sets of chokes acquired from buying s/hand semi autos out of six sets of chokes one is as stamped being Angleport the worst being Briley and Comp n choke every Teague is tighter than stamped Jess Briley and mr Teague being the godfathers of choking. .My point being there is nothing exact about choking it depends just as much on your barrel and choice of cartridge i have a Briley SK choke which throws almost full on the pattern plate Its good to talk just dont take it to seriously Happy days Valid point - most after market chokes do tend to be a little on the tight side, the rationale isn't hard to figure out as the ferocious breaks for a given constriction can make one think it's somehow the engineering and magic of the taper that XYZ has breathed into their chokes that is responsible. It can work the other way too occasionally, I had a Beretta Optima stamped half which measured and shot like 1/4 so I gave it away . I know at least one super shot who uses LM a lot in his CG and his breaks and results are the envy of most but I do personally suspect that in reality they're throwing tighter. Worth remembering that choke is a performance rather than an absolute based on constriction, what I maintain is to choose one that time and again gives you complete confidence in the break signatures that it produces. I quite like LM myself but compared to 3/4 it has time and again produced less impressive breaks on rangy, slow or edgy Teal. I once shot and missed a load of quartering away rangy/edgy low birds in practice trying to see how LM would cope screwed in 3/4 and hit the next half dozen birds rather well ! Coincidence, accident, luck, who knows but since it's the crosses I'm after rather than the physics involved it's irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 In as much as choke gauges have any purpose - which is arguable - it's worth pointing out that they are intended for standard bore guns. For a 12 bore this would be 0.729" or 18.4mm. Most modern clay guns are overbored which means a choke gauge is no use since the choke internal diameter is a constriction from actual bore size not a standard fixed value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 The much maligned choke gauge will indicate relative differences between chokes though ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I suppose it is all down to what pattern your choke/cartridge combination is throwing at the given range that you are shooting, and I would guess that apart from the limited few that have access to a pattern plate the only way that most shooters assess this is by the way that the clay breaks, or doesn’t! For the average club shooter very few misses will be down to holes in the pattern of the choke/cartridge combination, much more because the shot pattern was not in the same place at the same time as the target. As I only shoot practise and so compete with myself, (any others on the squad being incidental to the objective) I use 7/8 bottom Full top, it is where I ended up, not where I started and although the odd one or two might get past me, nothing gets through the pattern! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I suppose it is all down to what pattern your choke/cartridge combination is throwing at the given range that you are shooting, and I would guess that apart from the limited few that have access to a pattern plate the only way that most shooters assess this is by the way that the clay breaks, or doesn’t! I know a very good shot who states the difference between chokes 99% of the time isn't the "if" but the "how" of a break , the blurred line comes when the "how" can be said to help the "if" because for most people repeating the process is somewhat easier when the break signature is convincing and easy to believe in . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 As I said way back in '09, I use 1/4 & 3/8, (not quite a half choke) in my O/U and I've never found the need to use anything tighter. I've tried tighter chokes but they don't work for me, I definitely get better quality breaks using more open chokes. You simply don't need 3/4 & Full with modern plaswad loaded ammo, fact. Cat. totally agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I just use muller 2 and 3. I believed the hype and has helped my scores. Plus it keeps people happy with all the muller jokes when we go shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I use muller U3 and U4 for sporting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eon Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Dazlindazza - chokes won't alter how far the shot travels, they constrict the pattern. A typical example of a shotgun pattern is a 30" circle, a full choke will send more of the shot to the centre of the circle an open choke will have the shot more evenly distribute across the circle. My advice would be not to get to stressed about chokes, for sporting I use quarter and half and only change if changing discipline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landyboy Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) 3/4 and full go hard or go home ! Edited January 20, 2016 by landyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 i tend to use cyl cyl or cyl 1/4 as iam not a very good shot this choking keeps my average in the 80s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 i tend to use cyl cyl or cyl 1/4 as iam not a very good shot this choking keeps my average in the 80s "As I a not a very good shot" Your average would state otherwise, Is that your sporting average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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