ttalbot09 Posted August 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 i lay down 20 to 25 yards on my permission or so away from what i know is an active warren which has a large bank as a safe backdrop and there was 3-4 small rabbits and this large head so i though it was an adult one ok it was a mistake il learn from. iv never really seen hares before so didnt know difference unless i saw the full body i would of knew then...no hard feeling thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 i lay down 20 to 25 yards on my permission or so away from what i know is an active warren which has a large bank as a safe backdrop and there was 3-4 small rabbits and this large head so i though it was an adult one ok it was a mistake il learn from. iv never really seen hares before so didnt know difference unless i saw the full body i would of knew then...no hard feeling thanks It in the pot now dont worry, good clean kill thats what we aim for pardon the pun!!! Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobyb525 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 (edited) try shooting a flying bird or running rabbit with a rifle. No, thats when you would use a shotgun This guys shot a stationary animal An easy head shot so I'm saying its overkill to blast it with lead and ruin the meat when a shot to the head with a rifle is all you need. And i the previous post I said a rifle is better not an air rifle. Was a sound shot thats that Edited August 25, 2009 by Tobyb525 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobyb525 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 It wouldn't be overkill at 20m or if the Hare was running. I totaly agree with that, I was commenting on the specific situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 regardless of what people are spouting, thats a god shot. Air rifles are good for hares if taken at the right range. PROOF. (first light, not lamped ) and for pheasants. all taken with care and 100% sure of a headshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICK76 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Without wishing to comment on the right and wrongs of this thread, it does confirm one thing. By putting pictures of your kills on here, you can very quickly go from the "hunter" to the "hunted", Gee's the poor lad has had to try and justify himself about 3 times on one thread. He admitted to making an easy indentity mistake between a rabbit and a hare, but he was within range and made a good head shot, the result one dead hare. No one is perfect and WE ALL MAKE ERRORS from time to time, but there are some on this forum who seem to realy like tearing into people, when realy a bit of,well put of advice, would go down much better. My post tally on here is low only because of fear of ridicule and worry about how some members might perceive one of my posts, and i would only post pictures of any kills with extreme care. Should it be that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeymagic1969 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 No nick it shouldn't be that way - but anyone who shoots should at least be able to identify their quarry before pulling the trigger. OK so a rabbit and a hare may look the same, but are totally different animals!!!! - can you now see what I and some of the others are getting at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron airgunner Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 air rifles are capable tool for taking hares. a headshot at 25yrds will kill a hair with a <12ftib air rifle. oh and very nice shooting MM. would think a sitting pheasent would be easy game with an air rifle, gotta try it out once the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Good Shot,but Hares are NOT listed on the airguns quarry list!There`ll be more complaints than credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samw Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 i have shot loads with 28 gram of 6 and always have clean kills with them cracking shot with the air rifle , this time of year they seem to sit reall low in the stubble so u just see a head and some ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 A headshot with a air rifle if fine. Will be dead instantly 36gram no4 would be overkill! If anything a rifle is better than a shotgun with the right shot Sorry to say Toby but your advice is wrong!A headshot with an air-rifle is NOT fine.IT IS NOT LISTED ON THE QUARRY LIST FOR AIRGUNS,and therefore will probably injure the animal instead of a clean kill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killjoy Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 (edited) Cracking shot.... Well done lad!! Dont let the "morrally correct" keyboard hero's get you down, nobody's perfect, except the keyboard hero's who have never done anything questionable And how the hell can something be over killed? Surely its better to be deader than dead than not dead and wounded?? If its dead.... its bloody dead end of! "Over kill" what Bull **** Edited August 25, 2009 by Killjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axeman1984 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Without wishing to comment on the right and wrongs of this thread, it does confirm one thing. By putting pictures of your kills on here, you can very quickly go from the "hunter" to the "hunted", Gee's the poor lad has had to try and justify himself about 3 times on one thread.He admitted to making an easy indentity mistake between a rabbit and a hare, but he was within range and made a good head shot, the result one dead hare. No one is perfect and WE ALL MAKE ERRORS from time to time, but there are some on this forum who seem to realy like tearing into people, when realy a bit of,well put of advice, would go down much better. My post tally on here is low only because of fear of ridicule and worry about how some members might perceive one of my posts, and i would only post pictures of any kills with extreme care. Should it be that way? I have to say im with nick on this one and my post tally is low for exactly the same reasons, I choose my words very carefully on this forum.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttalbot09 Posted August 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 probably injure it ? with a headshot in the right part. i doubt it injured it it flopped down as a rabbit would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeymagic1969 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Your not quite getting it are you boys - it's about identifying your quary, not wheather it was a good shot or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killjoy Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Your not quite getting it are you boys - it's about identifying your quary, not wheather it was a good shot or not With respect.... I dont think your quite getting it! QUOTE "shot at a head in the grass that i thought was a rabbit" wheather it was a rabit or a hare, who cares? not as if he said he shot at just a head did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobyb525 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Sorry to say Toby but your advice is wrong!A headshot with an air-rifle is NOT fine.IT IS NOT LISTED ON THE QUARRY LIST FOR AIRGUNS,and therefore will probably injure the animal instead of a clean kill! Look, your really misunderstanding what I'm saying. Look at my edited post for clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeymagic1969 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 With respect.... I dont think your quite getting it! QUOTE "shot at a head in the grass that i thought was a rabbit" wheather it was a rabit or a hare, who cares? not as if he said he shot at just a head did he? Donkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron airgunner Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 he later expalined that he knew it was a hare or a rabbit! so stop getting you knickers in a twist!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samw Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 am not taking sides here cause i can see both sides of the story yeah an air rifle is not the tool for the job with hares and yes quarry id is of the up most and all that but there are some on here who dont wish to post things incase the get ripped apart for saying something wrong and i and i would think some others would agree is well out of order i was like that when i first started to post comments and topics say one thing wrong that some one dont like and there at you for it. and i will prob get ripped for this. at the end of the day the hare didnt suffer it was dead on the spot and am not taking sides sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttalbot09 Posted August 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 am not taking sides here cause i can see both sides of the story yeah an air rifle is not the tool for the job with hares and yes quarry id is of the up most and all that but there are some on here who dont wish to post things incase the get ripped apart for saying something wrong and i and i would think some others would agree is well out of order i was like that when i first started to post comments and topics say one thing wrong that some one dont like and there at you for it.and i will prob get ripped for this. at the end of the day the hare didnt suffer it was dead on the spot and am not taking sides sam OK yeah thats it now no more it was dead on the spot as samw said in the pot nothing wasted. some people think its fine as long as its clean kill others dont. and as nick said that is how i shall be now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemicky Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Yep you hit the nail on the head Nick76 , you've got to think an then think some more before you post an good shot ttalbot09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Anybody who shoots hares with an air rifle is an absolute nosher. Anybody who can't discern between a rabbit and a hare at airgun ranges should quit shooting. Use enough gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Anybody who shoots hares with an air rifle is an absolute nosher. Anybody who can't discern between a rabbit and a hare at airgun ranges should quit shooting. Use enough gun. You should be able to tell the difference between rabbits and hares by any number of things. The eyes are the easy one if you can only see the head (or the black tipped ears) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Anybody who shoots hares with an air rifle is an absolute nosher. Anybody who can't discern between a rabbit and a hare at airgun ranges should quit shooting. Use enough gun. Excellent choice of words!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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