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fine jumper
It was one of my old Dad's ,so lay off.
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No. In the wild state dogs get most of their energy from deanimation of proteins. All commercial food contain carbohydrate and the dog can use that nicely as an energy source.
For a 15 minute 'sugar high'? No point. That's how quickly the body will deal with it.
There is no reason not to give something sweet if the dog works so hard it collapses, there is a recognised condition of working dog hypoglyceamia. No point whatsoever giving such things at lunchtime to sustain the dog for the second half of the day.
Basic physiology.
Have you ever used recharge?
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The simple answer is to take some dog food for a mid-day snack.
Chocolate is not magically toxic, its just dogs are more sensitive to the theobromine. I wouldn't aim to give it regularly but if the dog has worked hard it's ok giving a small amount of milk chocolate.
You actually want to give carbohydrate to provide sustained energy, the chocolate bar will give a fast sugar hit that will be used or stored. Carbohydrate is released slowly and sustains work.
Humans get their energy from carbohydrates ,dogs get most of theirs from fats.
I would give the dog an electrolyte drink such as Recharge,which can be bought from greyhound suppliers, a glucose tab would do no harm , failing that honey and water mixed beforehand is a mainstay.At 10 you need to be realistic about the dog's capabilities, and keep a look out for signs of flagging/loss of drive etc.
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Not as daft as it sounds, I am able to dispose in my Green bin but i have a mate who cant, I also know some folk who have as many as 15 dogs........... what do you do with that much dog poo
Nothing , never found use for it.
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look at the state of him in pictures 2 and 3 christ, that's the funniest thing I've seen in ages
Sorry OP, that's tickled me that has
Basil Brush ,Ba - boom!
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OK Cruz fair engough
But you entered the ring of posting pictures of your dogs which can sometimes get the replies we all like ,and sometimes the comments we dont like .
Do you see me crying over Mags comments over if I wanted a fat lab lurcher ETC.
Also I started a seprate topic on this subject you guys entered the ring again so you have to take the rough with the smooth on comments .
Once again good luck you two Cookie
I didn't post the pics but I know the quality of the dog mentioned in them ,and the quality of it's owner. On that note why don't we let it rest? Good Hunting Cruz.
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Cruz
I have perfomed over tha last two months rabbit clearance for a estate where I get paid for my work I have posted only a fraction of my days out but if you spin though my sporting pictures you will see I have posted about my bags ETC.
Right I have only two working dogs for rabbit catching the long legged terrier is my fert dog I have worked him 5 days a week for over two months and your thoughts about him are correct his main task is to catch the rabbits within a short distance lighting take off .
Part of my self employment this year has entailed 3 paid contracts for rabbit clearance .
Our bedlington whippet is our and I say our as me and wife are both keen she working him on the lamp and is out 3 nights week as he is now 13 bar the hard spell in december when it was too hard for safe running.
And once again trying to smooth you over has failed and despite my best polite effort you still think I am clueless on rabbit control.
And pegleg you where correct in your view on my reply .
Once I bid you all the best Cookie
No, I have no idea as to your abilities at rabbit control,I cannot judge that, as I haven't been out with you , but your comments on running two dogs together do not inspire me with confidence . I can judge you on your comments regarding our dogs conditioning however , and on that I do think you are clueless .
If I seem reluctant to be "smoothed over " ,it is because I resent my partners name ,and, by association my own being traduced by some one who neither knows us , our dogs ,how they are worked or ,how they are kept and fed.
Yours in Sport. Cruz.
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i think what OTH(cookie) meant by that statement was that the dog's do exactly what they were bred for and were not pets that see a bit of action and meant nothing to breeding
however i could be wrong and personally i think your dogs look grand
Thanks for your comments.
Work commitments mean Magwitch has only weekends to get out and about, I am usually out every day with the juks.
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Cruz I respect your knowledge and views which is great and I have no problem with them.
Nor should you mine and I dont mean to disrespect you or your dogs and nor should mine as mine is a slightly diffrent design to yours your pure running dog .
I would post more picture of our bedlington wippet but pointless with a very rough coat to show his condition to you.
I start this topic seprate to the sporting pictures to try and avoid comparing my dogs to others.
I have diffrent views on dogs and thats that like I would never run two high speed missle on the same rabbit EG what happen when the two high speed missle clash with a impact speed of nearly 60MPH and nor let them fight over it like others do .
I also take exception to your comment that I dont know what I on about with clearly my catch rate which doesnt happen overnight I like you have some knowledge on this subject.
I on the other hand think you know what your on about and respect your reply.
Thank you for reply and take care Cookie
I have to view your confident assurance that you have "some knowledge of the subject" with scepticism ,because neither of the dogs Magwitch pictured are" pure running dog" as you call it.
Ted is a quarter bedlington, Smokey is a quarter bedlington,a quarter collie a half whippet.
In other words both are lurchers ,one with terrier blood infused into the sight hound the other with both terrier and pastoral,[ collie,] blood.
The fact that you failed to spot this ,makes me dubious about your claims of expertise.
The only time I would not run two dogs on quarry from choice, would be if coursing was still legal ,and if I were a lamping .
The picture you paint of horrifc collisions when two dogs are on one quarry is simply a very rare occurence otherwise all the doubled handed greyhound courses of the past ,[and those still occurring in other countries,] would end in disaster.
This again makes me wonder just how much actual work with dogs you do?
Neither do our dogs fight over their catch, in fact they retrieve together as, I believe, past pictures posted by Magwitch will verify.
I don't wish to disparage your catch rate , after all you can only catch what is there, but 8 rabbits is nothing to shout from the roof tops ,and the only reason we are not taking big numbers on the farm featured in the pictures is ,because the dogs have caught a large proportion of them . Your comments bring to my mind an old adage," a little learning is a dangerous thing"
The next time you want to state that Magwitch or myself are inadvertently painting Lurcher work in a negative light by posting pictures of under weight dogs I suggest you stop and think about it first.
from where I am sitting you are "The Biter Bit",and on the ****.
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For me its not about whats makes the dog run faster its about what looks right and how the dog is looked after generally.
Strange how the oringnal OP has posted that running dogs get a bad press in the world for me them pictures do little to improve the image of running dog men for me it depicts that having the fastest running dog and any cost outweighs the well being of the dog.
PS I own running dogs .
Cheers Cookie
As the rabbiting partner of Magwitch, and the owner of Smokey the blue dog pictured with Ted ,his whippet cross, I take exception to your comments,, may I say Ted is in top notch running condition, ready, willing, and more than able to bush and flush cover , bolting and hoovering up rabbits all day long. He is a perpetual dynamo ,never stopping,scenting up bunnies and catching a good 80% of those he bolts .His catch rate is the best I have seen and his prey drive is fantastic. He is cared for with dedication, and fed very good quality mince and meal, this is reflected in his performance in the field
I have judged lurchers at many shows over the years including the England Championship three times and run my hands over hundreds of dogs,so I hope I have some knowledge of a dogs optimum condition. The picture you put up of your red dog ,shows a dog that has no particular claims to good conformation at all,it appears a cloddy type of collie cross,of course photos can be deceiving,but I assume you have picked one that you consider, shows your dog off to his advantage,he appears short coupled , short and thick necked [a common fault with lurchers that have thrown to the collie side]. He also appears ,[from what is visible of it ,]to have what we call an over furnished tail.
Too much substance for the length of his leg gives him a mongrelish appearance .And he is too short in the back.
I am sure you think the world of him ,but if you throw stones, expect to get them thrown back
In soft condition, with no condition lines visible on the flanks or quarters, and not a trace of a rib showing ,in short he is not in what I consider top running condition.
He may give a decent account of himself on a few ferreted bunnies short runs , with usually a rest in between, but I very much doubt he would be up to a full days work with our dogs
" I own running dogs" you say ,well I do too, and have done for 42 years,I have worked them in 8 counties of this country and coursed with some success, with 4 top clubs for many years when it was legal , so I hope I may be allowed my views.
In short, I don't think you know what you are talking about really.CRUZ
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Nice work, hope to catch up with you one day
LB
How's that lamping going down your end LB?
Been out recently?
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nasty looking cut on back leg there.
i love watch dogs work for there handler. loads of proud moments when quarry is brought back and tail is wagging. nice one there.
Phil
It does look like a cut, but its actually a leaf, if you look at the later pics ,further down, you can see it's gone.I wouldn't run a dog with an injury like that.
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Got my first Red Leg Partridge today
Excellent...
Shot it on the first drive of the day. It came gliding over the wood about 30 yards up, crossing aswell. Missed on the first barrel but killed on the second. By the time I'd pulled the trigger for the second time it was pushing 50yds. A few friends congratulated me and that was that(also had a hen bird on the same drive).
Had another really nice bird on the next drive, hen bird. Missed a Snipe
Went to pick the pheasant and it got up and started running so let the dogs get it. Checked it over thinking I'd broken a wing but it had a pellet under its chin, stunned it I suppose. Missed a Hen bird in the afternoon. I was behind it as we were shooting down narrow rides in the Wood.
Excellent day, best Christmas present ever
(thanks to Dad)Just 2 pics.
Poor quality, phone camera
Dinner
Cheers
Well done ,never forget my first french!
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I received my copy of Jonathan Darcy's latest book ,"The Hare and the Swift Hound ",on Friday .
Just finished it.
It is a photographic record, coupled with pertinent comments,of the eternal duel between our greatest mammalian athlete, The Brown Hare,and its pursuer,the specialist bred long dog.
This is a book about coursing,and the dogs, and men ,that took part in it,[preban].
As such it is unsurpassed, both in the quality ,and the clarity of the photos, inside it.
The photos of hares, are simply the best I have ever seen.They show Lepus in his natural habitat ,in full flight, ,at play, safe in his form,and stretching his legs , ears back, in front of top class dogs.
Dynamic action shots of great dogs ,doing what they have been bred to do for centuries,
illustrate the magnificent spectacle that is single handed coursing.
Darcy's photos put you right in the action,in field ,and fen,,after looking at them, you actually feel you were there.
Jonathan has raised the bar, and set a new benchmark for running dog photography.
Added to the stunning pictures, are enlightening interviews with two men ,who need no introduction to coursing aficionados. Alan Sankey & Craig Nuttall. Recaps of their
early days,and their triumphs in top competition are discussed, as well as the great dogs that achieved them.
Anyone who has an interest in coursing ,and or Lurcherwork ,will love this book.
What a great Xmas present it would make? Luckily for me, Xmas has come early ! Cruz
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Do you mean the North V's South charity do....If so...Its a raffle thats taking place on the 29th May...
That would be it thank you.
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Does anyone know how the charity auction is going?
I am interested in the pen and ink drawing of the dogs ,as one of them is my dog Smokey.
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went out to a golf course i shoot rabbits and hares on tonight with my son and pal gary. . not a breath of wind and cold not looking good then walked round the course twice
and got 10 hares 2 rabbits .i dont like shooting hares at this time of year but its in my conract to remove anything that eats grass or digs in it .the geen keeper goes nuts a the hares diggin in the bunckers so the have to go as i get paid well to control them Most of the hares look "big",how many were in young?
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What was the miscellaneous if you don't mind me asking ?
I think it might be best if we leave that to your imagination.
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Looks like you had a great day, the weather was certainly good, I was out as well today, whippet lifted 2 escapees but the purse nets were fairly clinical. The does are very heavy so I think next weekend will be the last of the season.
I like your action shots, I had to rely on the phone for final tally.
When we gutted that dozen, only one had the start of youngsters in it.
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the blue dog look to have a bit off bull innit . what crasses are they ?
My girlfriend thinks Smokey, [the blue dog], looks like a Bill Sykes dog,but he is whippet/collie/ beddie x whippet beddie.
The little black flyer Ted,is a beddie x whippet.
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Thats the strangeness looking Hairdryer i have ever seen LB.
The biggest weapon i have ever got to use. Was Mr Flocks :(
That nearly knock me over.
xxxSuzy
I'm sure we are all suitably envious of
Mr Flock! Cruz.
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I would rather see pictures of Mrs Sweepy than Pat's mate, but then I am funny like that.
At my age I would rather not see pictures of me at all, but Pat is rather bashful.As for Mrs Sweepy, who wouldnt want to see pictures of her? Cruz
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O Mr Cruz
Are you the young gentleman who wave to me (Sorry i was never at the front of the line for brains)
I am so sorry for not including you .
So i am now making you the honorary member of the 40 to 50 club.
And Smokie(right) can be the mascot.
xxxSuzy
It will cost you the other wave though.
MrsS .I am neither young nor a Gentleman,but if my hunting partner brings his camera Sat I will give you another wave!
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Right now that we all feel old after reading young Mr Boomstick post.
I think its about time us so called oldies took these young Fledglings down the peg or too.
And prove that their is plenty of life in the old dog as such.
So come on put down your coco.
Dust of your zimmer frame
And stand proud And be counted.
And you never know we might even be able to meet up for the game of bingo.
Iwould have said meal and the drink. But i find now that if i eat late i would be up all night with indigestion.
And after a couple of Shandys i can pee for england.
So Hi am Suzy and am Forty..........Three(i think)
xxxxSuzy
Well I'm sixty, so I dont qualify ?Thanks for the rejection, no more waves in photos for you
Some pugging pictures..................
in Sporting Pictures
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It was about Xmas 1958
I don't get dressed up to go pugging.
Next time, I'll wear my moleskins , cords,and have a shave.