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  8. Old Browning 325 or year old Miroku MK 60

    in Guns & Equipment

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    They are £795 brand new so it would have to be high spec new in the box for £600

    http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/120126152259468

    http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/110526165945001

     

    If the Miroku fits and your happy with fixed choke then its not a bad price.

     

     

    Just nipped down to a local shop and tried a couple of guns out for fit. MK60 was nice but had a 28" barrel so felt a little light and not so well balanced... Browning Citory (?) was slightly nicer with a 30" barrel and multi choke.

     

    Had a look at a Lamber sporting Deluxe and have to say, although not as well made as the MK60 and Browning it was not a bad gun at all. Fits well too!

     

    Then stupidly I tried a Berreta Silver Pigeon 1 32" and wow! Second hand but mint (as it should be for the £1100 they wanted) now it's out of my budget unless I can sell a kidney but wow what a gun. Just felt spot on. And I normally find 32" to long for me.

     

    Any how, at half the price second hand I thought the Lamber was not bad at all....

     

    Might check the one out thats near me second hand. Or sell a kidney!

     

    Cheers

    Bruce

  9. Old Browning 325 or year old Miroku MK 60

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    Posted · Edited by brucegill

    Both very good id go for miroku just on the age of it really. Also if the barrels are stamped **- and*- I think you may find its actually 1/4 n 3/4. Miroku/ browning chokes arent the easiest system to read. Not seen any mirokus at 1/4 n half unless they had work done. Not trying to be a smart **** and correct you but wouldn't want someone buying a gun n thinking its something its not. Best of luck iv had 2 mk60's should never of sold the first one

     

    Thanks mate. Yes your correct, 1/4 and 3/4. Just got an email from the seller to confirm it.

     

    Got a stag do this weekend and moving house next week unfortunately. Hopefully it's still available when I'm all sorted!

     

    Thanks for the help

    Bruce

     

    Lanber sporter deluxe is decent mid level gun can be had for £4-500 in good nick, some are keen on bettinsoli, nowt wrong with a miroku or a browning I have a 525 out of the 2 I would go for the 325 if in good condition either is a better gun than the lanber or bettinsoli. Beretta, Browning, Miroku dominate the market in the uk at the £1-2k mark.

     

    Winchester select is another option.

     

    Got a lamber sport deluxe for sale close to me so may go and check it though it looks a little over priced at £595.

  10. Old Browning 325 or year old Miroku MK 60

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    Posted

    nope that's wrong the b125 were miroku made as we're the citori there are also some miroku made Belgian finished B26/27 models the date code is definitive.

     

    Fore ends vary within a style and arent all the same

     

    what's wrong with current gun? The 325 isn't chrome lined but does have chopper lump barrels not mono blocks while older the 325 may for many reasons be the better, neither are likely to be steel proof.

     

    As you your new, why not spend £7 on a round of trap or skeet ( clay disciplines) before buying a gun you already said your struggling to afford ???

     

    The gun I've currently got, and my first gun, was £50 italian mid 60's unknown make etc... It's got looser the more it's been used and the occasional misfired shot on the bottom barrel. Now I've done some shooting and tried other peoples guns I've realised this one is way to short and also a little light for me. It's served it perpose to be honest and I'd keep it for chucking it in a tractor when I get the occasional driving work.

     

    I'd like a single trigger and ejectors this time round. Not fussed what it is but felt I'd be better spending 700 on a gun that'll last a lifetime rather than 3-500 on something that won't or I'll want to upgrade. If I found a Baikel that fitted and covered the above I'd be happy tbh. I'm no gun snob but you can't argue with quality. But, it's been fun beeting a mate on the clays with his £2k gun :)

     

    Thanks for clearing the Miroku made modles.

     

    If you can think of other guns for less money I should seriously consider then let me know mate!

  11. Old Browning 325 or year old Miroku MK 60

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    Posted

    Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated!

     

    I'd not thought about chromed barrels. Would that make them OK for steel shot?

     

    I'll double check about the choke sizes. As I'm a newbie and have only ever had fixed chokes I'm not all that sure about all of the choices TBH....

     

    I thought the 325 are 70's, 425 are 80's and 525 90's but I'm not 100%

  12. Old Browning 325 or year old Miroku MK 60

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    Posted

    Hi Guys

     

    Looking at upgrading my 12 gauge....

     

    Budgets max £700 and thats stretching it to be honest.

     

    Found a Browning 325 Grade 2 and a Miroku MK60 Universal Grade 1 (one year old).

     

    Obviously the one that fits best would be first choice but I'm pretty new to this and it looks like they're much the same gun/maker??

     

    I don't know how old a 325 would be (serial 41101NY) and when Miroku started making the Brownings?)

     

    325 is multy choke and the MK60 is fixed 1/4 & 1/2 I think. I prefer the slimmer forend on the MK60 than the plank attached to the MK38

     

    Shooting pigeon mostly with some sporting clays. No idea what trap and skeet are tbh. Enjoy the clays but they're just not as tasty as Pigeon!

     

    I shoot a 28" but think I might try a 30" ?

     

    Many thanks

    Bruce

  13. 17hmr vs 22lr for Rabbit

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    Posted

    My lands pretty flat and pretty flinty. Not much cover. Not many back drops. Also has some foot paths and bridleways that could be a worry.

     

    I'm not massively into night shooting, purely because I don't want to be gutting and skinning into the wee hours. BUT it looks like the bag will be a lot fuller.

     

    22lr rounds price is very attractive after coming from Air rifles!

     

    thanks for all you comments so far, MUCH appreciated!

  16. 17hmr vs 22lr for Rabbit

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    Posted

    i did have cz in hmr form but as soon as i got an anschutz 1417 .22 with two stage trigger,i put the cz up for sale and bought an anschutz 1517 and had the trigger converted to a two stage,both now have thumbhole stocks and both 14" barrels and i wouldnt change them for anything.The difference between the cz and anschutz in accuracy is very little possibly anschutz a bit better but build quality,smoothness and overall quality of the annie beats the cz hands down.Between the two the .22 is very good as you say out to about 100yds max,but is alot quieter than the .17 and very good for lamping.The .17 good to 150yds but louder than the .22,meat damage is none existant with head shots and both calibres are more than capable of this if you do your bit.I would recomend you try the thumbhole stock if you decide on the annie as it has a raised cheekpiece much like an air rifle stock as normal rifle stocks do not have it so your chin will be alot higher on the stock.If i were you i would get both calibres funds permitting and bear in mind if you get a cz and trigger kit it will not make it a two stage trigger,just a trigger with no creep

    atb dave

     

    Hi there, So the 1517 isn't 2 stage like the 1417?? I assumed it was the same rifle but in 17hmr?

     

    I tried one with the thumbhole and as you say, much more like an air rifle stock and lovely to handle. Did you find another stock second hand or get one new from somewhere? Only ask as I have one locally for sale but no thumbhole stock.

     

    Cheers

    Bruce

  18. 17hmr vs 22lr for Rabbit

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    Posted

    Hi guys

     

    New to the forum, so hello!

     

    My ticket should be coming through the door in a week or two and I have space for both 22lr and 17hmr (plus FAC Air if I want it)

     

    I'm used to sub 12 air rifle and have around 1200-2000 acres over various permissions. There's hardly any cover on any of them hence the FAC application.

     

    From what I understand; 22lr are good to 100 yard max (I'm used to shooting using hold over etc), very quiet but ricochet. I do have some flinty ground so it's a worry.

    17hmr good to 150 yads, flat trajectory, more expensive to feed. Possible meet damage. Windage issues.

     

    My problem lies in the meet damage as I eat or sell my quarry. It looks like 22lr will be the way to go. I've looked at CZ, Sako, 10/22's, and then an Anschutz 1417/1517 (big price difference I know, but I really want a 2 stage trigger as I'm used them with Air rifles.)

     

    Most of the quarry will be around 70-150 yards away before I'm spotted and they run.

     

    I really want to know your thoughts on 17hmr meat damage as this would be a problem.

     

    Many thanks and sorry if this has already been covered.

  19. Hello from a new member from Essex

    in Welcome to Pigeon Watch

    Posted

    Just wanted to say hi as I'm a new member.

     

    Been shooting Air rifles for some time and have now applied for Firearms and Shotgun licenses. Should be in the post to me in the next week or two :)

     

    Got lots of questions about 22lr and 17hmr so will put up a post shortly.

     

    Thanks for a great forum, have chad lots to read already.

     

    ATB

    Bruce

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