sable
-
Posts
193 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Calendar
PW Shop
Posts posted by sable
-
-
IF IT is a a pound a week ime saving good
-
i used to do soundproofing pm me tell me what you need to proof
-
we are sinking under the weight
-
out is the only answer
-
IT was forty years ago today that the British people voted to stay in the European Economic Community.
In 1975 the public were told they were voting for a Common Market - some of you may have even voted in that very referendum.
I myself was only eleven at the time so wasn't old enough to vote, but I remember the debate going on at the time.
Whether you are one of those who voted or not, one thing we can all agree on is that the label on that political tin was wrong.
Dressed up as being about trade and only trade, those who voted Yes in that particular referendum would never have envisaged the undemocratic monstrosity that the EU has grown into.
To think now that a vote for the EEC back in the 1970's ended up equating to having a majority of our laws made in Brussels and our borders opened unconditionally to virtually an entire continent is frankly beyond belief.
But it happened and that's why we find ourselves where we are now.
With another referendum on the horizon, we need to ensure that a similar false argument isn't allowed to win the day.
Just as the great and the good in 1975 assured the British people that the vote was only about trade, this time Cameron, backed up by big business and the Labour Party, will seek to push the idea that he has negotiated some sort of marvellous deal.
That our future lies inside the EU and that Britain couldn't survive outside of it.
Well, I believe in Britain. I believe in our country, our people and our future.
A positive, global, outward-looking Britain is what we can become once more outside of the EU, doing our own trade deals and reviving neglected relationships inside the Commonwealth.
It isn't good enough to settle for crumbs off the table from Brussels. Our country's future generations deserve far better than that.
And I have a feeling that unlike in the '75 referendum where virtually the entire business class supported the campaign to stay in, we will see business figures come out and support a vision of Britain outside the EU.
A Britain where we don't have to put up with the straight jacket of over-regulation and can negotiate trade deals on an exciting, global scale.
The 1975 referendum shows what happens if we allow our future to be dictated to us by the same tired old establishment who have got us into the mess we're in now. But you know what? I have a feeling that the public now are far less deferential to establishment politicians.
Whilst back in 1975 many genuinely felt that politicians, whatever side they were on, were generally acting in the interest of the country. Do the public feel that way about the Tory and Labour leadership now? I'm not sure they do now.
This is a really important moment in our history. This is the modern day Battle of Britain. By learning the lessons of that referendum many years ago, we can win, extract our country from EU-control and bring about a truly historic moment in our nation's history that in another forty years time, the British people can look back on and be extremely proud of. -
-
This is a humanitarian issue not a political one...we have a moral obligation to help and take our share in my opinion. We will appear insular and uncaring and our reputation around the world will be further tarnished if we don't.
are you for real if so think of my grand children you are one very stupid person
-
The idiots who think we should accept this type of drain on the countries finances should pay extra tax to fund it and have them living in their homes.
right with you on that one
-
about time we have more than enough
-
nigel lives on and he cannot quit come on ukip
-
hope the bull was ok
-
OK WHERE
-
what about parents before having kids how far do you go
-
Sorry but you're just starting to ramble now. Two sides of which coin are you referring to?
You can't 'avoid' facts, but you can ignore them when they don't sit well with the points you're trying to make or they simply prove you wrong.
I couldn't care less whether you agree with me or not, I simply find your deliberate ignorance of facts to suit your needs very immature.
I also have no reason to feel ashamed over anything I have done but you feel I should be due to an unbelievably illogical perspective in that instance.
I didn't realise you had to be non-white to be considered of another race, but there you go, every days a school day. However, wouldn't his wife have at some time been an immigrant, such as the people you are berating in this thread, others of which were possibly born here?
Perhaps you could enlighten us all as to how you propose to deal with those you consider to be on the 'other side', again bearing in mind they wont be as open-minded or as tolerant in debate of others points of view as you clearly are.
You clearly resent having the flaws in your arguments pointed out to you, so good luck in pointing out there's to them. How do we deal with the problem?
Are you a 'women' from London? Have you been told to cover up near a Mosque? If so what do you propose to do about it? If none of this applies to you then what did those it does apply to do about it?
I have no idea what you're talking about.
thats youre problem you have no idea
-
Eh?
if you want to walk about with youre eyes closed that is youre problem no one elses
-
and would you feel a threat if you was a women in london and told to cover up near a mosque or told this is a sharia controled area look on you tube there are plenty of examples yes there are 2 sides and they drew the lines from not wanting to abide by our way of life and trying to push theirs
-
this post will be shut down as there is no freedom of speech on here
-
sheep
-
Subject: ELECTION TRUTH
While walking down the street one day a Member of Parliament is tragically hit by a truck and dies.
His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.
'Welcome to heaven,' says St. Peter. 'Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you.'
'No problem, just let me in,' says the man.
'Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.'
'Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,' says the MP.
'I'm sorry, but we have our rules.'
And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends, Old Etonians and other politicians who had worked with him.
Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the working class people.
They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne. It was just like being back at his London club, the Ritz or the Westminster Dining Rooms.
Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly & nice guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go.
Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises....
The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him.
'Now it's time to visit heaven.'
So, 24 hours pass with the MP joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.
'Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.'
The MP reflects for a minute, then he answers: 'Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.'
So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.
Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage.
He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above.
The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. ' I don't understand,' stammers the MP. 'Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened? '
The devil looks at him, smiles and says, ' Yesterday we were campaigning.. ... .......
TODAY YOU VOTED -
-
ime going to vote at 5pm first job after work come on ukip
-
-
ukip for me
-
ukip are going to surprise everyone on the amount of support they do get i only know of 2 people out of all the people i know who is not going to vote ukip and a lot of them have not voted for a long time watch this space
Gay pride parade
in Off Topic
Posted
you and me both