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26 pages of tail chasing,
this thread shows exactly what is wrong with this country, many with strong opinions but not an ounce of gumption,
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15 minutes ago, Gordon R said:
beazley - please stop this nonsense. I believe you are a definite troll. My only other explanation would be that you are still at school, lacking an education and real life experience. 🙂
excuse me!, regarding trolling and nonsense have you read the twaddle(with notable exceptions) of the first 17 or so pages on this thread?, tbh i read them with growing incredulity.
have a read of the big issue thread if you want to find nonsense
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my condolences to you and yours on your loss,
i would not expect any laws to be retrospective,
atb
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31 minutes ago, Dave-G said:
Our being hamstrung by some of the human rights invented by the EU to weigh us down is taking a while to undo.
the u.k instigated most of the human rights law,
its what we used to do,
sadly those times have passed as has our influence
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1 hour ago, Gordon R said:
In fairness to henry d - I very often don't agree with him, but beazley is something else. Simplistic rubbish, with arguments which wouldn't stand any scrutiny whatsoever. Bizarre solutions which could never ever work. never gets his facts right, doesn't mind when his thought process (I use that term lightly) is trashed.
Definite troll.
my solutions, however 'tongue in cheek' they are would work just as well as the ridiculous efforts the load of red white and blue chancers that this country voted in are doing, 'protect our borders', 'take back control' were two of the inane and jingoistic mantras, some saw it as the main reason for voting for the incompetent shower of blowhards, they cant even deal with destitute people landing in rubber boats ***, its turned into a farce and the efforts/failures of our pound shop politicos have sadly turned the united kingdom into a laughing stock,
expecting france to stop people leaving its shores to travel to the u.k was a good example of ridiculous policy, only an first class blinkered idiot would expect that to work, north korea maybe but in a 21st century democracy,not a chance.
whoever thought that would work should not be anywhere near government
what about the Jamacians that they periodically charter airliners for, a few score at a time are collected from various prisons or detention centres around the country and transported to the airports ,put onto the planes, they then sweat it out on the runway for a few hours and then most are taken off and returned to their detention centres as it turns out that our home office dont understand u.k law.
a grand day out on double time for some but just another example of the sheer incompetence of the government who got in by peddling a hard line agenda that they knew darn well was not deliverable.
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27 minutes ago, Rewulf said:
Me neither, the man's on a different planet.
same planet but certainly a different dimension to the one you two are in, these immigration/migrant threads always have an air of disconnection from reality about them,(no offence meant or intended)
theres a big issue one going as well which is well worth looking at.
i have had to bite my lip and not post a reply on that one.
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57 minutes ago, Newbie to this said:
Because scum like him are our problem, we should never make them someone else's problem, even if they are willing to take them for a price.
I wasn't aware they came here illegally.
thats right,
being a refugee or escaping certain death wasnt a crime back in the good old days.
same people and same reasons tho'
so what is wrong with treating it as an exchange, somebody who wants to become a nurse,care worker etc to be let in to live and work and a home grown criminal who cant stop stealing and drug dealing whose actions are destroying our civilised society to take their place in a rat infested camp in france or belarus
demonising those who need our help and lauding those who thrive on the suffering of others is so far removed from what this great country once stood for,
it seems unbelievable that being British was once something to be proud of,our core values of fair play,justice and equality were respected right around the globe
we are sinking fast and its not immigration that is dragging us down.
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1 hour ago, Rewulf said:
Foreign national offenders
Removal of Foreign Criminals: MW 484
- There are 18,400 foreign national offenders (FNOs) in the UK, including 9,000 in prisons (who made up 11% of a total prison population in 2019 of 82,200).[1]
- Non-EU FNOs make up around 5,100 (or 57%) of the total FNO population in prisons; the other portion (3,900, or 43%) consists of EU nationals (2019).[2]
- In the year to June 2020, there were also 9,400 FNOs living amongst the general public. This has more than doubled from just under 4,000 in 2012.[3]
- Under Section 32 of the UK Borders Act of 2007, non-EU “foreign criminals” sentenced to 12 months or more in prison are subject to automatic deportation.[4]
- Those recognised as refugees may also be stripped of their right to stay if convicted of a ‘serious crime’, i.e. leading to a sentence of imprisonment of at least two years.[5]
- There were 4,700 FNOs removed in the year to March 2020. The number of such returns fell from 6,200 in 2016. Returns averaged 5,300 (2010-19 - Home Office).[6]
- Returns of EU FNOs have risen over time, while the number of non-EU-national returns has fallen. Only 32% of those returned in 2018/19 were from outside the EU.
- The average FNO is removed 139 days after release from prison.[7]
- Obstacles to removal include: ‘last minute’ asylum claims, Judicial Review applications, further representations, documentation issues and absconding.
- Brexit change UK rules regarding the deportation of EU criminals.[8] After 31 December 2020, foreign national offenders (including EU offenders) can be removed (under the same rules as non-EU offenders) if they receive a custodial sentence of at least 12 months (under the UK Borders Act 2007).[9]
- The estimated annual cost of administration of FNOs is £850 million, according to the National Audit Office (NAO).[10]
There are just over 9,000 foreign national offenders (FNOs) in UK prisons - representing 160 nations of the world - making up about 11% of the total prison population of 82,200 (2019).
About a third were convicted of violent or sexual offences, about a fifth for drug charges, and others for burglary, fraud, robbery and other serious crimes.
There are two foreign national offender-only prisons, one of which is located at Huntercombe - Henley-on-Thames, Oxfordshire. The operational capacity of this prison is about 480.
Nations with the largest numbers of their citizens in UK prisons are: 1) Poland 2) Albania
3) Romania 4) Ireland 5) Jamaica 6) Lithuania 7) Pakistan 😎 Somalia 9) India and 10) Portugal.[11]
british nationals in our prison population = 87%,
%wise more than british nationals of working age that have a job,(75.5%)
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take for instance a fictional recidivist,
norman stanley fletcher would do as an example,
why should scum like him who has no regrets for the harm and distress his burglaries caused to his victims be allowed to live in our mostly law abiding society,
there are many real fletchers in society who we could do without,
another example,
the real life pritti patel's grandparents will do,
they would now be refused entry regardless of the morality and economic benefits our society gains from accepting their ilk
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to be honest i dont care where they go or what happens to them,some British families have produced generations of criminals ,often 3 generations + of one family have all been inside, there are areas in the u.k where the moniker of scally or geezer is worn like a badge of honour,that is how twisted British morality has become,
any criminal using violence or anybody facing a 2nd jail sentence should not be allowed more rights than somebody that has travelled through dangerous waters to make a better life for their families,
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albania or rwanda are 2 places that spring to mind,i'm sure that many governments would provide room and board for a small fee,say £25 a week max, perhaps the new afghanistan administration could step in to look after our home grown drains on society, i dont really give a hoot where they go as long as a deserving and contributing person is allowed to take their place,when they get shipped out their close family would also have to go.
the ones that would be allowed to settle in their place could live anywhere they want
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one in one out is my solution,
some scumbag recidivist ,regardless as to wether they were born here who is sentenced to more than 6 months inside should be kicked out of the country and a deserving person let in to settle and contribute to society,
some,if not most of these boat people are better examples of mankind than many of our own natives you see in wetherspoons on a saturday night
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i would expect that the ones we see are not all of them,
most likely some have stopped off in safe countries along the way,most at the first safe country they came to,i have heard that all countries along the way take more of these souls than the u.k, the numbers taper off the further away from their countries of origin
we are just seeing the ones with more 'get up and go' than the ones that lie back and do nothing to change their situation,
this is a inate human trait which is embedded in mankinds dna,
what they are doing are hardly the actions of spongers and drains on our economy,
a measured humane approach is the answer
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maybe the reason that they want to come to the u.k is that it is such a great country
i know i would rather be here than any other country.
who can really blame them for striving to get their kith and kin to a safe place,
a place where a future can be contemplated
i know i would if i was as desperate and had as much courage
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2 hours ago, scutt said:
They find money to pay for crossing surely its not unreasonable for the British public to expect them to pay for all living costs in this country until they get deported to the country from witch they set out from. Follow the money and find out the original country that they came from.
follow where the u.k produced/sold bombs and armaments were used/ended up would be a sure way of finding the country of origin of many of these poor desperate souls/pawns
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i have one that i would consider moving on for the right price,mint condition,as good as the day it left the factory,
1 x single shot tray + 3 mags + pump + hardcase,
i would consider top money to be north of 1k,
let me know if you are interested.
thanks,
B
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a message to all cyclists,
move over,you are holding up a dinosaur
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