verminer Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 can you all please let me know what price you are paying for your .308 ammunition many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mry716 Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Prvi Partizan is about £8 a box of 20 for 150gn 165gn or 180grn SP and a few pence less for the match ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verminer Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 thats cheap as i am paying £19.50 a box for Federal. are the cheap ones any good or shall i stay clear of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mry716 Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Is PP any good? Well yes and I have proved that to myself by using it. Ive tried a selection of cals and all shoot 1" or less so I am pleased. Note I only use field ammo not target so have only tested SP style ammo. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/mry...amestrimmed.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/mry...Partizan/PP.jpg To consider the quality I took a sample of 25-06 and pulled 20 rounds and checked and weighed the components. The bullets weighed as good or better consistency than Hornady Nosler or Speer (ones I had to hand) and the powder charge was within .2 of a grain from round to round. As far as I am concerned that is good. Primers all fired with an equal amount of flame and noise in my workshop and I am now testing some of the PP primers with different loads to ascertain the heat burn level and where they stand in relation to other makes. The first five 130gn 270 shot in a friends Ithaca proved excellent at 120yds off the bonnet of my wagon. His rifle is zeroed 1" high so you can see the slight difference in velocity on the target. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/mry...izan/270JMG.jpg The brass is a different chemical composition to that sold under the Lapua name (which is generally considered an excellent case) but it is made on the same machinery as PP use. PP used to make case manufacturing machines pre ammo manufacture including thoise used by Lapua, so we know the brass will be to excellent tolerances. Problems - few. They are cheap so as with anything that doesn't hurt when you buy it you wonder if there is something wrong with it BUT do try them for yourself as too many comments are made by folk who havent tried them and automatically decry them as being the same as the other 'Cheap' ammo that is available. This is not of that ilk. As far as the examples I have tested, all have been slightly down on velocity to say Federal (308 and 243) Remington (25-06 and 270) or Winchester (223 and 22-250) but equated well with PMC (222). I tried 222, 223, 22-250, (50 and 55gr), 25-06, 308 (150, 165 & 180gr) in my rifles and all performed equally well as did 243, 6.5, and 270 in borrowed rifles. I shot at least a box in each rifle and both the 222 and 308 (180gr) and esp the 25-06 I am now using myself in preference to homeloads as accuracy is fine and they are cheaper than loading my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verminer Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Is PP any good? Well yes and I have proved that to myself by using it. Ive tried a selection of cals and all shoot 1" or less so I am pleased. Note I only use field ammo not target so have only tested SP style ammo. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/mry...amestrimmed.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/mry...Partizan/PP.jpg To consider the quality I took a sample of 25-06 and pulled 20 rounds and checked and weighed the components. The bullets weighed as good or better consistency than Hornady Nosler or Speer (ones I had to hand) and the powder charge was within .2 of a grain from round to round. As far as I am concerned that is good. Primers all fired with an equal amount of flame and noise in my workshop and I am now testing some of the PP primers with different loads to ascertain the heat burn level and where they stand in relation to other makes. The first five 130gn 270 shot in a friends Ithaca proved excellent at 120yds off the bonnet of my wagon. His rifle is zeroed 1" high so you can see the slight difference in velocity on the target. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/mry...izan/270JMG.jpg The brass is a different chemical composition to that sold under the Lapua name (which is generally considered an excellent case) but it is made on the same machinery as PP use. PP used to make case manufacturing machines pre ammo manufacture including thoise used by Lapua, so we know the brass will be to excellent tolerances. Problems - few. They are cheap so as with anything that doesn't hurt when you buy it you wonder if there is something wrong with it BUT do try them for yourself as too many comments are made by folk who havent tried them and automatically decry them as being the same as the other 'Cheap' ammo that is available. This is not of that ilk. As far as the examples I have tested, all have been slightly down on velocity to say Federal (308 and 243) Remington (25-06 and 270) or Winchester (223 and 22-250) but equated well with PMC (222). I tried 222, 223, 22-250, (50 and 55gr), 25-06, 308 (150, 165 & 180gr) in my rifles and all performed equally well as did 243, 6.5, and 270 in borrowed rifles. I shot at least a box in each rifle and both the 222 and 308 (180gr) and esp the 25-06 I am now using myself in preference to homeloads as accuracy is fine and they are cheaper than loading my own. thanks for the reply, i am now off to buy some if i can find a local supply. but at that price i would imagine they are all sold as soon as they come into the dealers. i don,t know if you can advise me on the 308, i have always used a .243 for shooting deer and foxes but i was talked into buying the .308 i have not even zeroed it yet, but i plan on zeroing a inch high at 100yds. would you happen to know at what distances can i expect to be able to take out a fox. many thanks verminer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mry716 Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 1000+yds But I suggest that if you are as good with your rifle as I am (and most people) it would be better to keep to around 200-220yds as the farthest distance. That way you ensure a good clean kill. Later when you have practiced a little - and PP ammo prices allow that - you can increase your distance to the range at which you can regularly put together a 3" group. Good shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mry716 Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 I must say I think you are unlucky. I have encouraged quite a lot of folk (20+) towards PP and all with one exception are finding them great. The exception was with the 22 Hornet. As an example I have this evening just shot 3 Fallow deer out of a group with 165gr in my Rem 308 and all were dead with one shot at ranges from 120 to 200yds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mry716 Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 My 308 is win dont know if thats the differance as you said yours is 308 rem and at this time of night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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