[JSB Beast]

i will give these guys a go,  just noticed you are from my Home town of Bristol, born and bread in Staple Hill.

where you located ?

 

[JSB Beast]

1 minute ago, Ultrastu said:

I think I do .

I'm a big fan of .177 fac .I find it usable out to 70 yds in still air and 50 in moving air ..

Its big advantage over the other cals  is its lower bc.  It means that it sheds its energy faster than .22 or .25 etc  both in flight and in quarry .this can mean safer fallout areas and more effective kills on some quarry (kill zone dependant ) .

Elevated shots are where the .177 shines 

I agree with you on my favorite gun and cal  Air Arms build a great platform in the S510 extra FAC, only fault i have is not regulated (yet) and power selection is dial up, the Ultimate is power level positive click giving perfect consistent selection.

backyard friendly, powerful, accurate and energy retention.

on your recommendations i will purchase a few lighter pells, do you have a favorite ? 

[JSB Beast]

4 minutes ago, Ultrastu said:

Don't loose sight of what a .177 fac is for and what makes it so useful .if you run heavy 16 grn pellets through it you may as well use a .22 gun instead it will be more effective and efficient in every way .

as previous posts states i have the ultimate sporter R s510 in .22 and the Daystate wolverine in .25  bases are covered.

also have an older HW80 in 22 in case i run out of gas

😃😃

[JSB Beast]

my ballistics may not be as accurate as yours my friend, i go on my actual results, the area i shoot has varying terrain where winds cross both ways.

 i can control the heavy pellets better than the lighter, to many varying factors that stop me pulling the trigger, get closer i hear,,,, could do but open to elements more, i shoot from my deck.

it would be accuracy i need, not sure how much energy a lighter pellet would hold, i don't have many in stock for that reason, hope you understand my situation.

[JSB Beast]

running 8.4's is not an option, i need to drop crows and maggies at 60/70 meters effectively with no error.

the 22 s510 ultra sporter is no issue, she is dialed in running 30+fpe running heavies

the Wolverine is lethal @70 fpe.  its streching the boundries of the 177 with the beasts giving me heartburn, may need to drop back to heavies only

[JSB Beast]

absolutely, the heavies run at 981-976 fps for 22.0/22.25 FPE 

seem to run best at 922/914 fps & 19.6/19.3 fpe

not chronograph-ed the beast yet but expect lower velocities and similar energy at higher speed/power

 

[JSB Beast]

A question on consistency.

i have been running a number of pellets through my AA S510 .177" with very good results.

favorite right now seems to be the JSB Heavy 10.34gr  actually put three on top at 66M.

tried the Beasts at 16.2gr, get 4 or 5 good shots and then they start shotgunning and spraying all over.

anyone had this experience? or know why this would happen? going to clean the barrel this weekend and start again with the heavies and see that all is working correctly, then select a few beasts of a glass plate.  not sure where to look so open to suggestions if any.

thanks in advance.

T.L.E. 

 

 

   

[Speith Machines]

will do mate, thanks for the info and advise.

 

[Speith Machines]

have a local shop Hi-Tech seals looking at the material for exact composite type.

machining it i have no issue, i have a machine or two at my disposal... 

https://www.apollomachine.com/machining-services/machining/

can look at the additive manufacture side of things at my Laser shop too, good idea.

thanks for the link Gggclark

 

 

[Speith Machines]

tried Speith, no response on two occasions, wont give a third strike.

there's an idea on 3D printing, 

material is Urethane not rubber.

had a response from Howell trap USA, will see how that pans out.

thanks for the responses, the serious ones anyway.  didn't think it would be an easy fix.

 

martin. 

 

[Speith Machines]

Hi Guys, it's a long shot but i am asking for help here.

I have 30  working &15 more for spares)  Speith International Trap target throwers that are in need of a little T.L.C.

There are two grippers that hold the target in the stack while waiting for next drop.

Then the Throwing arm has a channeled pc running the length of the arm.

you can see in the picture attached.

I am looking for replacements, or a Contact i can talk to to get Spares.

believe it or not the machines were built in 1976/7 for the 1978 Commonwealth Games here in Edmonton AB, CA.

Lasted well but have perished beyond consistent use now.

thanks for reading and maybe helping an Ex-Pat out here, Don't want to get thrown to the Bears for failing to deliver.

appreciate any help.

Martin. 

  

[restriction issues or not]

23 minutes ago, figgy said:

You could put a hair roller and a j cloth inside the shroud. This is what weirauch done with their silencer.

Should take the sound a bit more. Have a look online.

could do, i don't use them anymore 😂  very frowned upon here unfortunately Figgy, too much at stake to risk. 

[restriction issues or not]

1 hour ago, figgy said:

I use a dive cylinder as do most UK PCP owners, compressor for own use is becoming more popular with prices coming down.

Are you allowed shrouds fixed or adjustable like on the impacts etc as they're not strictly a silencer ?

all my PCP's have shrouds, they remove any baffles from them prior to importing, the "AIR-STRIPPER" is still on the muzzle helping to remove some of the blast but that's it.

taking a shroud off and firing is very noticeable from a volume point of view,  weird thing is i tried to purchase a shroud from the U.S. for my Marauder, no can do... no one will ship it to me. 

[restriction issues or not]

Just wondering of the restrictions we face both sides of the pond with Rifles/handguns Etc, obviously no handguns but what of airgun pistols? 

I'm sure the majority of shooters in the UK prefer the sub 12 ft lb gun to stay within the rule and regulation, less hassle for one thing but with more legislation coming in and even sub rifles becoming more controlled would the hoops be less of a pain?  I am not 100 % up on the UK legal side but hear enough to know things are becoming more restrictive, and with the more powerful PCP's do people cross over from rim/centerfire to these.

The U.S. have come on leaps over the last five plus years and big bore Airgun use is soaring, plus the ability to use Moderators without special license requirements.

I think they have it right where an Airgun is not a Firearm...   

one major difference here is Moderators, we (Canadians) are not permitted the use of period..... beats the hell out of me for Airguns as backyard friendly guns can be made even more friendly.

And all you PCP guys, what equipment do you rely on for filling,  Tanks or Compressors ?  how many fit guys still use hand pumps ?

curious is me

TLE 

 

[stock and forend]

usually use a coarse scotch brite cloth and elbow grease, then finer to smooth out.

tung oil to finish.

lots of elbow grease Mossy.

[Joining the PCP brigade..?]

21 hours ago, Mice! said:

If you get the chance could you start another thread telling us what you use your air rifles for in Canada,  certainly be interesting. 

Cheers

Not too sure it would be that exciting Mice.  short version is i left Bristol in 93 to start fresh in Canada, shotgun and airguns left behind.

started clay shooting in 99 and became competitive in 2000, shot up to master class and qualified instructor and enjoy that more than comps now.

airguns here started with an old favorite HW80 I tuned to 830/840 FPS with Exact  18 grn Jumbo heavy .22" great pellet in all my guns for power and consistency.  started into PCP two years back as an interested Engineer and wanting to pull apart and play, started with the Marauder then Daystate then AA , i fiddle and play, set up and take down, swap glass and put it back again, but  pellet choice is constant in all cal's.

i shoot vermin mainly in the back yard or out on the farms, Gophers cause all amounts of problems with livestock feet breaking in the holes, and as you guys i'm sure, i hate Crows and Maggies in my yard, a black and white free zone for the betterment of other birds and young.

still shoot a lot of shotgun, handgun and rifle .338" lapua LR,  down to .177", its all fun.

the Engineering gets me all the time though, and my shop gives me ample playtime for modifications

https://www.apollomachine.com/machining-services/machining/

  hence the name.

TLE

 

[Joining the PCP brigade..?]

not sure of access to all makes back in the UK, I run of PCP's here in Canada.

Crossman Benjamin Marauders in .177" .22" & .25"   all good and accurate guns ranging from 28  UP TO 52 FPE  

very reasonably priced guns with accuracy, tune-able 

Air Arms S510 xtra FAC .177"  backyard friendly in low power 500 FPS and potent  at high power 1040 FPS 

start paying more and worth it

Day State Wolverine 2 in .25"  set @ 70 FPE  Heavy Hitter 

top priced but well worth quality

walther lothar barrels are excellent on the AA & DS   

good glass on the rifle and you have a great combo, i use Hawke mostly.

vermin comfortably taken up to 100 yds with the high power, further with the DayState .25" 

been a while since posting here, nice to see Teal doing well still.

 

TLE 

    

 

 

 

 

 

[Old Topic from Germany]

Much appreciated PieBob, exactly what i was looking for.

with Koning there was an entire hunt posted, unfortunately it has been removed at family request.

 

thanks again.

TLE 

 

[Old Topic from Germany]

was busy going through them on that search Zapp, unfortunately it looks like they have been removed.

a great shame but respect to the family wishes.

 

Martin.

[Old Topic from Germany]

Zapp, old memory still working, close with the name.

many thanks my friend, i shall read well again.

as i previously stated, a good read for all on here.

very sadly missed, he was a great guy to talk to forum too.

thank you again.

 

Martin.

  

[Old Topic from Germany]

good morning all, been a while since i have been on the site, nice to see the hive of activity still.

i have a question more suited to the older (time served not age) members of the forum.

a number of years ago there was a German fella who had posted a fantastic report of a hunt in the forest (possible black forest area) boar and stag/deer.

well documented and pictured, the rite of passage of the animals taken very seriously, all cleaned and laid to rest on evergreen type branches.

as i recall this fella passed away a year or so later, i really want to find this post and re-read its content, even show a number of guys i shoot with here the respect he and his co shooters had for the kill.

i can only recall part of the name which is something like Koneg or similar.

if any of the older members or even Teal can recall, would you please send me the link to review the post once more.

i would greatly appreciate the gesture. 

it would be a good read for any new members here also i'm sure.

thanks for your help guys.

Martin Usher. 

 

[junk in the trunk]

just received V-Mach tune kit so looking to strip and rebuild Friday for the weekend.

definitely changes to existing equipment, though spring sleeve is smaller wall thickness .020" new one is .008" new slips inside old as diameter in free state is 1.015" as opposed to .926" not sure if this will allow spring slap or not..... I can see this rifle being stripped and rebuilt a number of times over the next few weeks for continuous improvement. little mod here and there.

also looked at remanufacturing the piston itself, anyone done this? a better material with less galling properties and denser mass e.g. Be-Cu. incorporate a few ring grooves for centralizing the piston to the bore......

talk about a make work project, will run the chrono on rebuild and put up results.

 

T.L.E.

[junk in the trunk]

when I was in the UK (Bristolian born and bred) I used many airguns as I grew up, my two favorites were the BSA Airsporter under lever.22" and my Weihrauch HW35E which I loved. back then it was all about power, our ignorance as kids to rules with airguns, always looking for better. as a young Engineer in training I researched every spring I could get my hands on for more umph...... only later in life you understand limitations and catastrophic failure with metal fatigue amongst other constraints. running a drop of Diethyl Ether in the tube is bloody dangerous.

here the law of 500 fps and below is considered ok to shoot without license, above requires a PAL (possession acquisition license as the law recognizes it to be a firearms) though I feel this is very vague as different pellets travel at varying speeds, the trap here is the RCMP doing checks with airsoft pellets that can travel at 650 fps 18" from muzzle then fall on the floor 25 ft away, rule of thumb would be get it checked and be sure, ignorance is not an excuse.

we cannot run moderators here unfortunately so sound is a problem, I am looking for every conceivable method of dampening the gun, all parts including the cocking arm assembly, we will see how this goes, I have time to invest and am really enjoying the return to air-gunning. I have the V-mach tuning kit coming in this week, will see how this works and go from there.

thanks for the response all.

 

T.L.E.

[junk in the trunk]

so what power was your 80 running with this pellet, the Premier is a Crossman pellet I think we use the same 14.3 gr slug.

what was done for the stage one tune up? parts, spring, dampener sleeve etc.

I am looking to get the old tired spring out and replace with the V-Mach tuning kit which will keep it running around the 21 ft lb mark, my old piston has had a few mods and is showing its age, I have built a .02" brass sleeve to reduce the spring slap noise but don't know how long it will last, or if there is material transfer going to take place. I stopped the use of plastic skirted pells as I hate cleaning the gun every time I shoot it.

 

thanks for the feedback, good to hear from another 80 fan.

 

TLE

[junk in the trunk]

just finished rebuilding my HW80 as it has been lying in the basement for over a year now, pulled out a bunch of pellets to try her out with and found these bad boys, any of you guys still run these pellets ??

 

right now the gun runs approx. 825 fps giving a 21.6ft lb (before the law Nazis get involved and shout me down as an irresponsible air-gunner, location location ) running Premier .22 hollow points @ 14.3 gr (cleaned and lubed)

 

running the promethius I recall plastic build up in the barrel over a few as 20 pellets, constant cleaning needed.

killer pellets though, hell of a penetrating tool for sure.

just curious about your usage and what anyone with an HW 80 uses.

 

TLE