alcob09

(Its not a case of "MIGHT not need one" you dont need proof marks ona mod, it doesnt matter if the plod wants proof marks on them, by law you dont require proof marks on mods, therefore he entirely incorrect if he says it is necessary. if someone gets injured you can almost guarantee its user error, or in another way more common case is when people foolishly put air-rifle mods on rimmys and centrefires, thats nothing to do with proofings, just human ignorance! ) if you read further back in this string you'd see that this is what i'm talking about, not so much unproofed but one guy saying he put an air rifle mod on his rim fire! but thanks for the bitch slapping

awesome, you are right it does seem that you MIGHT not have to have a silencer/moderator proofed. however mr pc plod will still want proof marks, and will argue the toss over it, hence i say 'not worth the argument' by the way as i said about the parker hale its been quietly changed and in some places recalled to change the baffles since its falling appart under the pressure from the .17hmr discharge. mine is on its way back to helston gunsmiths for inspection by old man mr chris price who is furrious that this is its third set of baffles and last time i chatted to him he was investigating to see who passed it as safe for .17hmr. and he is a firearms expert and legal go between for proof house and police....... i'll leave it to him to play with. personally i couldn't live with myself if i gave out advice like the quote above and someone got injured.

sold my .22 rimfire because i couldn't put up with the cr*p accuracy, and it didn't make sense. i have a pre charged air rifle for the small ranges and the .17hmr does everything else. accuracy makes it cheaper per head of bunny. i have been witness to people using bigger and faster rounds for rabbits and dont like the idea. as for wind deflection, all rifles suffer to some extent. take the time to learn your rifle's tragectory in ALL conditions and you will shoot better. you dont have to go bigger to combat wind etc. just shoot better if you want to see how good this round (.17HMR) is against old dog charlie, go and buy sporting rifle mag. the article in apr09 issue, about richard faulds fox shooting with his .17hmr........ confirmed fox out to 175 yds witnessed by the mag itself. he also goes on to say that he takes foxes out to 200 yds!!!! personally i have only had fox out to 100yds with shots in the chest. never seen one move other than straight to the floor.

just for info, the parker hale .17hmr moderator WAS fitted to my rifle (cz). all of the baffles inside were burnt out and deformed THREE times (after approx. 15-20 rds). parker hale have started to change the first four baffles with stainless steel ones but left the last ones as alloy. if you own one i suggest you remove it from your rifle and check down the bore. parker hale are dragging their heels over this but since my former boss at helston gunsmiths is on the board of proofers its getting forced on them. the changes they made are insufficient and the last two baffles in mine have now folded over into the path of the bullet. hence i am getting rid to get a wildcat instead, my advice is if you own a .17hmr to make sure the moderator you have on it has steel baffles and not alloy......... on the subject of moderators, if like another post on here you have an air rifle silencer on ANY firearm regarless of what you think, if it has not been proofed then it is...... a. bl**dy dangerous as its not been tested for that kind of pressure. b. questionable as to its legallity. i dont think its worth saving money to put one on your rifle or risking possible injury or even a nasty copper chit chat.