Now mate i bought a flapper from pigeon decoys in irland about a year ago and it is still goine strong. my son orderd me a new one for christmas on sunday and it came on wednesday the flapper is a new mrk 5 so cant wait to try it no dout it will b as good as the old one ( just remember to make sure the wings are definatly snapped or it wont last 5 mins as my mate has just found out ) chow