Will Beasley
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From that, i'd deduce you were in the best spot.
So would I!
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Ordered a bit of gear from U.K. Shoot Warehouse, first set up that I have ever owned myself
. Service was second to none. I recieved a Hyper-Light magnet, although dead birds can not be mounted on this particular machine it helps suit the weight to walk total I am after. It came with battery, speed control and two Hyper-Lite decoys with 3D heads attached, fantastic realisem, and very stable with the 3 out rider strings attached. The dec's realy do look good in motion and the speed control is certainly going to be a bonus. I also recieved 10 ground, pegged dec's, these were shells with a facilitie to have them iether pecking or standing up right. The pegs were in 2 pieces joined with a spring, which I would have thought took a bit of desiening to get the right movement, once in the ground they actualy move with the breeze, i.e. pecking or, if standing, swaying gently, (backward and forward) terrific. I also bought a camo net and poles, against my hedge it looks the bee's knees when errected. Sorry to rant but I am realy chuffed, and should any member of U.K. Shoot Warehouse be in these forums, please except my thanks for great kit 
, keep well all, Gel. P.S. gota take it down now before Mensab 
gets back from shopping.Glad your chuffed with your gear bud!!
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QUOTE i hope the magnet dosent break it took 6 months 12 phone calls to be told it could not be sorted so tuff!!!!!!!! (never again)QUOTE
This quote is a total LIE, no doubt posted in spite from a trader under a different guise.
We stand by our products 200%, and pride ourselves on giving people good value, fastest delivery, and aftersales service second to none. We've been established 17 years. If ANY of our products go wrong we do our utmost to get the product repaired or replaced ASAP, and 6 months and 12 phone calls is SO not us. Perhaps the user Sl1959 had confused us with another company???
I notice that the original post by sl1959 has been removed by the user. Hmmmmm wonder why...... wussy.
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To a paying customer whos looking to book a guide on face value and judge the guide based on the days results..... a Pigeon Guide is ONLY AS GOOD AS HIS LAST DAY. Thats the bottom line.
Having done this job for over 15 years now let me tell you...... it's ******* hard work when you take on novices, clients with "high expectations", young London city slickers who want birds "on demand" as they're accustomed to on daddies expensive pheasant shooting estate, and people who simply wont accept the fact that their "wants" on a days guided decoying are completely flawed by their lack of knowledge, skill and aptitude.
Some clients hit the right spot on the right day and to the client the guide will be the greatest thing since sliced bread.... and on the trickier days, - simply because money is involved, - the client can sometimes put in no effort in thinking/hiding/paying attention/being alert 100% of the time instead of reading a porn mag or Financial Times, and heres the buzz word.... "actively HUNTING", and thus the guide gets the blame.
I have no sympathy anymore with clients who want to put in zero effort, and will actively cull them from my bookings. Success in this game relies on effort not only from the guide, but also the client. The times when Pigeons sail into the decoys kamikaze style for "Tarquin, investment ******" from London who wants push button pigeons on demand" are few and far between these days. My apologies to anyone called Tarquin on this forum who's not an investment ****** from London who I may have offended :-)))).
Just because you book a days pigeon shooting with a guide makes NO Guarantee, AND please prospective clientelle.... YOU ALSO HAVE TO WORK AT IT SOMETIMES... no... in fact MOST OF THE TIME. These birds DONT want to get killed, EVEN IF YOUR PAYING FOR IT!!!
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the basic one has a three spike footing, comprising of a center spike and 2 more spikes left and right. if you were to stick it in the ground you would be left with an imprint like this * * *
The Pro-Motion Rotary features a 4 spike footing and adjustable arm attachment points so you can raise and lower the arms for varying conditions and crops. The Pro-Motion is the most popular of all our range and at the price is super value. I know we're selling it but its a tidy rotor and its what I use, as well as the Optima Rotor from our range. The Optima rotor footing goes into even the hardest of ground with incredible ease, so no more pouring your coffee on the soil to de-frost it in winter/summer.
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I just cannot beleive that people pay £150 a day to learn to shoot pigeon,do you have to pay for birds hit as well
Oh Deeeeeear.
Still so much hate for us Pigeon Guides..... 
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These are the only trousers I wear nowadays. They aint cheap, and they're not a branded "hunting brand" however these guys supply all the Police and Military in the UK and other countries too. What you want is Arktis Falkland Trousers. These bad boys WONT let you down despite Harkila/Seeland/Deerhunter guarantees. These are the only trousers that live up to their claims and I've tried lots. Ive just ordered two new pairs and my originals have lasted 12 years, totally waterproof and out every day during the "wet season". You wont beat these, http://www.countrycovers.co.uk/products/17/falkland-trousers-waterproof and by the way I'm not sponsored or have any connection with Arktis, I just know their products are the best of the best, and their performance is superior to all the available "hunting brands".
Have a look at www.countrycovers.co.uk for more of Artktis's kit, its what the Police, and Special Forces use.... That in itself is an unbiased recommendation!
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You need the right field with steady one and two birds traffic
coupled to a good hide under the traffic
coupled to a good pattern with deeks replaced by dead bids asap
coupled to a nice breeze carrying the sound of shots away from any holding woods
coupled to dull weather conditions
coupled to steady accurate shooting to kill pairs
coupled to not leaving the hide too often
Really good bags need all of the above.
100% RIGHT. Absoluteley bang on advice given there, all these factors can make or break a day, get all of them right and youre in for a biggy. If one two or three of them are wrong..... results will worsen. Couldnt have said it any better Hamster. Man knows what he's talking about.
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Fiesta usually, or any wiper that outputs at an RPM of 40-45 RPM.
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We are aware of a problem which has occurred with the new style Hypa Flap Plastic mounts, recently received by us and as mentioned in the thread below.....
http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/177378-rotary-and-hypaflaps/
<<<<<<the only problem with the later Hypaflaps is the attachment is now plastic,when you try to tighten them the plastic tube deforms and doesn't hold the decoy in position,so you tighten it more and they slip,happened to a mate of mine,i got the older model with the steel attachments.no issues.I like them and i think they can out perform a real bird as the create more movement
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All Hypa Flap decoys have now been ammended and come with a Metal threaded insert to allow full ( I.e Gorilla tight!! ) tightening to whatever you wish to mount them on without deformation of the plastic mounting bracket.
Thanks.
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What annoys me and other shooters is when a guide move into an area where previously pigeon shooting was easily available by knocking on doors and starts to take up 'exclusive rights'. Yes it may be market forces and the way of teh world blah de blah but it does cause alot of resentment. The only people benefitting are the guide, the landowner (financially) and a few Frenchmen and Danes. The same could be said of when commercial goose decoying started to kick off in the seventies and eighties only that was worse as more money was involved. My local analogy, and this has happened here, is when a fishing club takes on a previously free stretch of river and start charging for it, to cover their 'rent', but why rent what was once free and open to everyone!!
Respectfully, I'd like to reply to that.
Recently we have had several farmers contacting us in preference to their usual "hobby shooters" as we can be there the next day guaranteed, make a concerted and strategic ALL DAY effort to kill as many birds as is possible, and clean up every last cartridge, sandwhich wrappers etc at the end of the day. Their stance on the matter ( and it seems a pretty uniform theme judging by the opening conversation ) is that they had "a few old boys" who they'd phone when the pigeons were battering the poo out of the rape. These guys would rock up randomly 2-5 days after the phone call from the farmer, set up in the easiest position possible on the field which didnt mean a long walk, park a hoofing great 4x4 25 feet away from their hide, stay there for an hour and a half shoot 5 cartridges for a couple of pigeons and then pack it all up again after a short while and go home. Then come the summer time they'd be banging on the door nigh on hammering it down to shoot the pigeons on the rape stubbles which they put SO much effort into protecting for the farmer during the winter. Is it any wonder the farmer prefers a guide to Bill and Ted who rock up whenever they please, put in little effort, chop whacking great big holes in hedges and pi$$ off the gamekeeper.
Dont take this personally as I quoted your post scolopax but as a guide I know we have several thousand pounds invested in Land Rovers modified with mud terrain tyres, wheel spacers that fit the tramlines so they dont make a mess, 2 quad bikes and trailers, chairs, hide poles, nets, deeks, magnets, shell decoys lofters..... the list is ENDLESS. not to mention the phone calls made to and from clients on the day and before their booking, land rents, insurances, the dreaded FUEL ( I average 120 miles a DAY, running round looking after clients, moving birds, changing the odd hide etc .....every single day ), depreciation of equipment, replacement of equipment (often broken by clients are hide poles stamped to death into the ground and bent and snapped, cammo nets cut with knives to form peep holes so they can see out of them, busted seats where they've flopped down so hard in them they've broken, Pigeon magnets left to fall over and catch fire. How much more do you want?
Still think I'd make Dragons Den? I can hear it now... Peter Jones a telecoms magnate worth 200 million...... Theo Pathitis a retail magnate who owns La Senza and Rymans the stationers... Will Beasley... Pigeon Shooter. 
Its all time effort and money invested, and speaking as a guide what we charge is certainly NOT 100% profit.
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Will,
Perhaps you could give an update as to how your season is going?
What are yo charging these days?Is it fully guided only or are DIY options still open?
I don't know what the matt Hance reference above is all about,all I can say is Matt H has turned into an incredible shot...his 94 at Royal Berkshire Classic,1st time up was a stunning score...so all his pigeon shooting sure helped him!!
ATB.
We've kept prices the same this year, and until Nov 1st we only do guided.
However its absolute pants right now. With it being so dry and warm the spring rape and peas arent growing, and consequently pigeons are still feeding on buds, short spots in winter OSR and clover. And its hard to pin 'em down. Very hard!!
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A pigeon guide is only as good as his last days shooting........ nuff said. And no matter what..... you cant win em all. Wether youre a guide, an experienced decoyer, or a novice...... we all have good days and bad. Thats the charm of pigeon shooting.
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Matt hance designed the pigeon magnet the Beasley and Matt fell out for reason I dont know Matt no longer works for them.
All the best Andrew
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Sounds like the Seeland rotor to me. In which case... contact them via seeland.com
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Its about time you lot woke up and realised what a shower of **** Decoying UK are. Its just a shame that its cost some of you financially.
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My gloves of choice. Use em every day guiding through the winter. Just took them skiiing in Zermatt too, and never had a cold pinkie at all.
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Gas guns..... ####### pain in the ****. Once the birds have been "bangered".... theyre ########.
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I was going to post a topic about this myself..... there does seem to be an unusual amount of young birds about right now. Probably shot 15-20 in the last 10 days. Bizarre, but real!
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The black screw is there to stop the arms rising out of the slots in the motor head. Turn the thumbscrew so it covers the slots where the arms go in otherwise with the flapping motion and extra lift generated by the flapping the arms can actually rise up out of the slots and then ... you can guess the rest!!
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Sounds like you bought a set of the cheapo Chinese poles which are coming into the country.
Now although I sell Pigeon gear.... these poles really are utter POO. We had 4 sets on trial and I bust every single pole within 2-3 insertions into the soil. And this was back in Autumn when the ground wasnt that hard. They chinese manufacturer quoted us £10 for a set of 4. Do the maths. You get what you pay for!!! Utter carp.
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YE BEEN USING THEM FOR OVER A YEAR NOW GOT THEM AS THAY CAME OUT BECAUSE DECOYING UK IS BASED NEAR WHERE I LIVE IN WIGAN. THEY ARE LIGHT NOT BULKY AND THE BEST DECOY I HAVE EVER USED THE WOODY BOUNCE IN TO THEM I WOULD GO AS FAR AS TO SAY THEIR BETTER THAN REAL WOODYS ON CRADELS!!
Yeah.... like........your spelling and grammar iz Da BoOm TiNg iNiT Cuz.
There you go Deako and Mark..... theres a new slogan for FUD decoys....... "I LUV TEH FDU DICKOYIES CUZ THA MANZ THUT SELLUM LIVS IN WIGUN"
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Over all, we have found that the most effective speed range on a Rotor is betwen 38-45 RPM. 90% of the time flat out (42-45 RPM) is cool. However in exceptionally hot or still conditions ( or a day where its very hot AND still!) the slower the better. However go too slow and the birds will twig that they look unrealistic and will flare off.
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You could give them a call, they seem a helpful bunch on the phone.
Just call us and we'll do our best Hewey
BASC Pigeon shooting service
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Believe me.......We wont be going anywhere near this.
The "problem areas" you speak of will be full of problems much bigger than the Pigeon damage.
It'll all collapse in a year or two's time after its become a squabbling mess between Shooters, BASC/NFU, and the landowners themselves.
I'll be continuing to serve the farms I look after as best I can....as I have been for the last 23 years.