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Milton Keynes Yeah id always buy second hand and I totally understand that lol, just thought id ask the question incase for e.g i bought A 30" barelled gun and everyone was like "why on earth did you go for a 30?!", but i can see its somewhat irrelevant for me a this stage so fair enough. Hmmm tough dilema really. Because as much as i think i'll only ever be shooting pigeons on my permission, 6 months down the line i could get to know afew ppl at a local club for example, and end up being much more involved in the hobby than i originally thought. But it would be fair to say that 6months down the line i could be in the market for another gun anyway. Il bear that in mind as i come to my final decision thanks. ( And yes i do appreciate some other have mentioned this point also)

With all due respect, i asked for people's opinions, as there is no right and wrong choice of gun for what im looking to use it for. I stated i was interested in both types of gun, not just one. Please dont think the advice im recieving is falling on deaf ears. Thanks

Cheers. Im hoping a Beretta 302/3 will be a good fit as im liking the look of them alot.

Thanks for detailed advice buddy, very helpful. As your active in this thread i may aswell ask you another question you may be able to advise on. Barrel length? Im around 5 ft 9.5", again average build but fairly built due to the gym. For my intended purpose (Pigeons) and height/ build, what barrell length should i be looking for? I was under the impression that 28-30" would suffice, or should i be concentrating just on the fit for now being a novice.

Thanks, a very good point worth considering. If full chokes weren't part of the package, i suppose they are available seperately too arn't they.. Yeah i will definately look into booking afew lessons, and see what i like the feel of, Makes + models etc. Thanks, i was wondering how to determine a good fit, and you've kind of answered that for me. Any of tips in regards to fit?

Thanks for the advice buddy. TBH i dont think id really have the knoweldge to know if a gun really fitted me properly or not? Handling shotguns is somewhat alien to me at the moment. Perhaps after handling afew it will just "click"

Thanks for the heads up. And yeah, id only really be shooting pigeons on my own. Ive located a place not too far from me, so il check that out and see how i get on. I always like to research into what im buying so it wont be a rush job. Is there anything i should stay away from? Because i know in the Air Gun world, Hatsan's are a no go! Any comments on a Remington 1100? There are alot available in my price range, As are Baikal 27's...

Hi, this is my first post so hello to everyone that reads this. Im interested into getting into shooting shotguns for a few reasons really. One reason is down to the sheer number of pigeons i encounter on my 126 acre permission...perhaps 100-150+ or so at a time. Although using my air rifle on them is an enjoyable hobby, it is far from efficient. Im also very keen to take up clays aswell (trap/skeet), and just generally enjoy owning and using fire arms This will be my first shotgun, so im not after anything flashy. I simply want a solid reliable gun, that will do as intended when i ask of it. Looks will be a bonus but its no concern really. If i do opt for an Under/Over i would also want ejectors. Having looked into shooting shotguns on the internet, its clear there are 2 main choices for me to look into in regards to my intended purposes. ( Mainly live quarry + perhaps clays ) Under + Over & Semi Auto (12g) So having searched on Gun Trader for both types with a budget of around £250 - £400 S/H, there seem to be a few common makes + models available... Over/Under Baikal (27) Miroku Lanber Browning Semi-Auto: Remington (1100) Beretta (A301) Browing (Gold) Id like to know your thoughts and recomendations. ( If it helps, i have been to my local and handled a Remington 1100 so far ) Thank you.