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Too right But no one with enough power or cash seems to be bothered to put the time in to change it. They just laugh at them and shout "YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU"RE TALKNG ABOUT" Long live the ignorant. Unfortunately.

All animals benefit from varied gene pools but if the fox is a pest, Why would you want to have strong, fit ones? You wouldn't want strong, fit rats and myxomatosis was introduced to rabbits to weaken and kill them. Just a joe public thought.

Says it all. Good luck.

Its always the same. Laugh at your ememy and they will shoot you dead and laugh back. The antis will eat you alive. The public will always have a negative view of hunting for as long as you think they are fools. Are children fools because they can't read a book yet! If you keep laughing at joe public they will continue to dislike you. If you use a little intelligence and educate them they may come to understand you. They are not fools. They missunderstand or have little knowlege and all you do is laugh at them. Joe public is a vast resource that can be used for good or bad depending on who is the best educator. Is that the pro hunting or the anti hunting? If joe publics view of hunting wasn't so clouded with childhood memories of cute fluffy bunny images there would be no need for a debate. Everyone would see food, tools and wealth when they look at animals and not the cuddly little fluff balls with sad eyes that they are being taught that they are. I personally think its a waste to let hounds rip into a fox that has the potential to be clothing or food for my animals. All children should be taught from a very early age that animals and plants should be given care and be respected because they are made of food and can be used as tools or clothing. Our whole culture is geared around political correctness when it should be geared around respect for ourselves and the land we live with. Dogs are tools for hunting and whatever else you can think up for them but to let them make what looks like an out of control kill shows a lack of adequate training. Joe public just imagines a loud and savage free for all followed by someone on a horse being what they see as a hooray henry laughing about it and getting hammered. Oh look, its another toff that gives not a jot about anything but his fun. Let me see you change that by just laughing at the antis and telling them they dont understand. Of course they dont. Thats the reason they are anti.

I think you better educate me then.

The children that get torn into by a family pet or 3 are probably not in any pain while they are being torn into then! The other remarks are unfortunately going to come true due to a very single minded and insular attitude inside hunting in general. Death of any kind is very emotive. The general or joe (foe) public need to be educated but the walls are up so they dont see the big picture. To bring on some game birds for a shoot is something they see as barbaric and pointless. They see cows and sheep and deer in a field and meat on a plate but not the bolt to the head and the knife across the throat. With the birds they see the bird fly then a person in a (countryside shooting uniform) with a big shot gun take it out of the sky. They dont see all the training of the gun dogs and that the birds usually die quickly or that the money it generates for the local and national economy would be sorely missed let alone all the jobs it creates. They only see the (not everyday clothing) the kill and the party.

LOL Got you all burning eh! Thats what foe public already thinks I think you need to look at it and get you're heads of of the sand. I personally dont mind any kind of huntung. Bow, rifle. shotgun, hounds, ferrets, terriers, hellicopter, boat, whatever. Not a problem. Its the kill and the reason for the death. Kill for food or for the health of the land or kill to protect whats you'rs. I will help anyone with that. Killing with hounds does what, that a kill with an efficient, quick weapon cant do?. Hunting with hounds is a lot of fun and is providing much and varied employement. Killing with hounds is very counterproductive to the sport because of the percieved savagery at the end for the "CUTE PET DOG shaped fox" I will never knowingly end a life in a slow and painful way. I will always be efficient. Thats my choice. I dont mind how anyone else kills but joe public does!

So there you are, rifle in hand and you take your shot. BADOOOOOM there goes an ear! You think, oh well i'll take another. BADOOOOOM There goes a bottom lip and a knee joint. The fox is trying its best to escape but hey!!! You got another shot ready. BADOOOOM and there goes a big lump of thigh and half its bum but still it wants to escape. BADOOOOM another one takes a whole foot off! BADOOOOOM there goes its bottom jaw and now its unable to move. You walk up to the animal and leaning close, you look it in the what you think is an eye and BADOOOOOM you make the kill because you are a rubbish shot and dont care about much thats alive really. You bag up the vile creature and off you go to the pub to sing songs of blood and guts and get wasted with the mates that paid to watch you kill it. All the above apart from the party time is cruel and needless. You can do all of the above with a pack of hounds and put the creature through much the same torture. certainly much better to learn how to shoot and where to shoot at. You can still have the party. Unless you're the kind of person that likes to see a slow and bloody death. I personally respect all life and cannot find enjoyment in pain and suffering. If the only way to protect what you have is to kill then kill all you need to. Hunting with hounds seems like a grotesque and antiquated way of getting together and having some fun with mates you want to show off to. We all think and live differently to one another but who on here would take a long slow time and many bad shots to make a kill? Not me for one. ONE CLEAN SHOT, ONE KILL

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