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  1. Spec savers moulded ear plugs, they do them especially for shooting and other sports. Range of colours and you can hear normal conversation. I've had a pair for 4yrs now and they're excellent. I bought mine for £90 I believe they are now around £120

  2. Am I reading this right, are we talking here of throwing shot pigeon away instead of using them for food? Everybody who shoots live quarry has a moral duty to ensure that, if edible, it is used for such purpose, as well as having respect for the bird. It does not matter if you give them to someone who will use them, breast them and freeze them for your family or sell them, in good order, to the gamedealer. As many of you, as I do, have nesting pigeon in their garden, one of the great joys I have is to observe the courtship, mating, nest building, egg laying and fledgling cycle that takes place to produce the bird we undertake to outwit in the field with our own fieldcraft and skill, and to think of bin bagging them at the end of the day beggars belief. And before anyone jumps on me, yes I know they are a pest species shot under a general licence and must be controlled, but if someone is shooting edible birds, they should think what they are going to do with them before they go shooting!

     

    He wouldn't bin Fillet steak and Pigeon breast to me is Fillet steak!!

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    16 birds to one gun on one drive, at that rate its a 500 bird day, beating speed through a drive makes no difference what so ever to bird speed over a gun line. On a commercial shoot we wanted a twentyor so for the bag on the last drive, double banked I was at the end of the front row, around the side of a smallish hill on the top of which was a game crop. The beaters literally ran through the crop, must have been 500 birds in there and most of then came out in one flush. Most people had a right and left and left it at that.

     

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    It doesn't really work like that on my shoot. There are 5 standing guns on every drive, and I place the Guest on what I think will be the best stand for every drive so he has a high chance of a very good day. There are big gaps on each drive so that birds can escape and not get shot at, also I have a limit of around 80/90 birds a day. I shoot my two main drives first so that each team will have plenty of shooting. After that if I have the number I require we drive the outside bits where only a few birds are shot or flushed and whatever comes first the end of the day leaving the birds plenty of time to go to roost or near the tally I want I stop the shoot. By limiting the number of birds shot to what you put down will mean you still have plenty of birds left coming into late January when I think they are at their best.

    Anyhow you said it yourself the beating speed doesn't make any difference to the bird speed, but it makes a big difference to the amount of birds flushed as you said far too fast and they all get up at once.

    After 42yrs of running driven Pheasant shoots I've never seen 500 birds in the air at once and regardless of what you shot it still must have been a Fantastic sight!

  4. I wish I had 50% turn up!

    All the above comments are true in my opinion!

     

    Lots of excuses and hollow promises and then complaints when it's goes wrong and no praise when it goes right.

    Its the done thing on our shoot for the shooters and guests to bring a bottle and put it on the table for guns and beaters at the end of the day.

    Guest turns up and says, You wont believe it I came away and forgot the bottle of whisky and left it on the kitchen table. I said you never forgot your Gun!

    The Guest on the first drive shoots 16 Pheasants and misses a few at the end of the drive he says to me. I expected to shoot more than 16 on one of your main drives and the reason for that is, You are not presenting the birds correctly and the beaters are pushing to slow. Much of the same on every drive. This was two seasons ago I met him this year in B&Q and he said I was expecting an invite this season but didn't get one, (Oh Really)

  5. I work for Apache offshore that's where I am just now. I have never met him but some of the guys I'm working with know him and its all good. The Dark Storm cartridges might be worth buying as well. I have my own driven pheasant shoot and I shoot nothing but game, pigeons and a lot of inland Canada's. I shoot the game with my O/U and the rest with semi-autos. It depends how much shooting in a day you will do with a light gun. Too light and you get into the recoil v cartridge combination and when you drop down to a lighter cartridge then you start loosing the pattern over a certain distance. I use a 32g No 6 cartridge for game shooting and pigeons or crows. Eley VIP is my first choice followed by Black Gold. The SP 3 28" Barrels 7lb 4/6oz will be perfect as it wont feel heavy at all and you can walk around all day rough shooting and it will fire heavier cartridges as well so it would be a very good choice for game shooting.

    They also hold their price very well, mechanically sound and after sales is excellent it would be a worthwhile choice.

  6. Hi Guys ,

     

    I have an opportunity to purchase either a 12 or 20 bore Silver Pigeon 3. Each for around £1200. I am waiting for some photos as I am offshore at the moment and haven't actually seen the guns. They are around 8 years old.

    Can anyone tell me any information about these. I have been looking at the various web sites and they get a reasonable write up but I am a little confused as a couple of sites have mentioned that the SP III is a limited issue but I do not know if the SP3 and the SP III are in fact the same. The current owner is repatriating back to the USA soon and is not wanting to take them.

    I have been looking, although not very seriously, at a lighter game gun so I thought that these might fit the bill.

     

    Cheers,

     

    BBL

    He doesn't work for Apache does he ?

    I have a SP3 30" Sporter and its an excellent gun, I don't shoot it my son does and he's never had a problem with it and the wood is normally very good looking.

    I don't know how light a gun you want for game, The one I have is 7lb 12oz and 28" range from 7lb 4oz to 7.8oz. I don't shoot clays only game and my Browning is 7lb 12oz

    and its not a problem carrying it around all day and I'm 62. I personally would go for the 12bore and start at a thousand. As for the 20bore I've always said!

    " What ever a 20 bore can do a 12 bore can do better!

  7. I've a Browning sporter 425g6,Multi,30",ST. I bought it 6mths second-hand after it came out and its never let me down. As for the length

    of barrels I don't shoot clays only game and vermin and I like the swing of the 30" maybe you need longer for clays I don't know.

    As for the 525/725 I've shot both guns and I think the 725 shoots better. As for looks, as above I don't like the chequering and

    definitely don't like the fore end. Whatever fits you or shoots better I would go for that one or if you can live with the looks of the

    725 that would be the one for me.

  8. Had apple for 5yrs now, Phones Desktop, Laptop, I use Microsoft at work for 12hrs a day 7dys a week like I'm doing now for a month at a time and I cant wait to get back to Apple.

    Give yourself enough time and you will never go back, also Apple will train you on their equipment for free if you buy it from an Apple store, or they do where I stay.

    You can always ask Siri if your stuck!

  9. My local dealer 3" Magnum 50g £750 per Thousand

    3.5 Magnum 66g £1050

    32g No 6 for pigeons £225

    The above is plus carriage if you want them delivered

     

    Just Cartridges 3" Magnum Fiocchi £459 / RC £441

    3.5 Magnum Fiocchi 63g £647

    32g No 6 Fiocchi Sporting Pigeon £203 Eley £217

     

     

     

    I'm over an hour away so for me its a no brainer. I've used JC a lot over the years and I've never had a problem, they also have a vast range of cartridges that I cant get locally. Also fast delivery and booking is easy. I suppose you will get them cheaper than JC depending on where you stay and if you pick them up even better.

  10. Three of us in the family shoot and we all use 12 bores Beretta, Browning O/Us and semi autos Beretta, Browning and Benelli. I have a

    Browning 425g6 which I bought second-hand after they just came out and none of these guns have let us down yet.

    As for yourself for £1500 per gun I would buy a second-hand O/U from Beretta,Browning,Miroku.Winchester or any of the top brand names

    You will get a really good quality gun and it will hold its price. As for your better half as I said there are lightweight O/Us on the

    market and you will be using the same cartridges. Don't buy a cheap new or second-hand gun and then a year later come back and buy the gun you should have bought in the first place.

    Next step is to get the gun fitted to yourself very important.

    Next step is to spend what money you have left if any? on a Good instructor and take regular lessons to get your basic technique solid and not develop any bad habits. As with any sport if your basic technique is not good you will only go sofar!

     

    PS- What ever a twenty bore can do a 12 bore can do better!

  11. I would drill a hole in either side and glue in a Dowel rod or Steel rod to give it strength. I like to use fast Araldite for the glue and clamp it together and leave for 24hrs. I'm not up on glues and there could be a lot better out there especially for stone. I would price a new one first incase the glue is more expensive.

  12. I've been running Pheasant shoots now for over 40yrs and all the above comments are relative and true. I think what you need to save

    yourself time, effort and money plus all the pitfalls is somebody who has been doing this a long time to show you the ropes and look at

    your ground to see if is viable first of all for the shooting you propose to do. He will also tell you what to do and more importantly

    what not to do. (might make a good topic Ill start it and you might pick up some tips.)Good Luck!

  13. Passive smoking isn't addiction; until you've actually craved for a fix to the point where it interferes with everything else, then with all respect you have no idea.

    I have known countless people whom have died through smoking related diseases, and even some of those craved the very thing that was killing them right to the end, so 'feeling' their addiction doesn't quite cut it I'm afraid.

    If your friend REALLY wants to stop smoking then they could try reading The Easy Way to Stop Smoking by Allan Carr. Hundreds of thousands of people have successfully stopped smoked after reading this book, as have many others after vaping, but you still HAVE TO WANT TO stop. There is no miracle cure (although Allan Carrs book felt like it to me) and despite all your good intentions, THEY have to do it.

    I didn't say passive smoking was addictive. Years ago they suggested that it was worse than smoking but who knows. I've seen serious craving with 3 cousins who were Heroin addicts that craved it right to the end.

    I agree with what you say that they actually have to want to stop themselves or they probably wont. I've passed your book on and I hope it does him some good. Back to the original question I believe it should be the same restrictions as cigarettes

    Passive smoking isn't addiction; until you've actually craved for a fix to the point where it interferes with everything else, then with all respect you have no idea.

    I have known countless people whom have died through smoking related diseases, and even some of those craved the very thing that was killing them right to the end, so 'feeling' their addiction doesn't quite cut it I'm afraid.

    If your friend REALLY wants to stop smoking then they could try reading The Easy Way to Stop Smoking by Allan Carr. Hundreds of thousands of people have successfully stopped smoked after reading this book, as have many others after vaping, but you still HAVE TO WANT TO stop. There is no miracle cure (although Allan Carrs book felt like it to me) and despite all your good intentions, THEY have to do it.

    I didn't say passive smoking was addictive. Years ago they suggested that it was worse than smoking but who knows. I've seen serious craving with 3 cousins who were Heroin addicts that craved it right to the end.

    I agree with what you say that they actually have to want to stop themselves or they probably wont. I've passed your book on and I hope it does him some good. Back to the original question I believe it should be the same restrictions as cigarettes

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