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look at the money been dropped on these 2 videos on you tube lead shot production daugavpils shot factory and another shot tower how lead shot is made 1950 british pathe loads of sights on the gear you need
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i am looking at elevator manafactures i see the northampton tower which was used for testing lifts has now been turned into absailing prodject may ask a few quotations to these different makers for a price later today but very busy wi carts need to get to livan st annes wi 30000 carts then get back and make about 30k for scottish trip this coming weekend to deliver and shoot a few doos up round about turriff its all go c u later cheers george
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addres is aei cables durham road birtley
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14 minutes ago, K85 said:
Whats the buy in!
ok start by doing a bit home work a lift would be needed to lift 20 kilo ingots up 70 meters if you get time do a bit pricing theres a lift maker in north hampton up the side of there tower i dont know what you call them but theres a start for furnace about 10k wots best gas or electric got to be power on the site then the altering a water bath and a chain drive buckets to scoop the shot out with very small holes in buckets to let water out then a grader for shot sizes it can be done believe me
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6 minutes ago, K85 said:
Whats the buy in!
from my side there is no buy in it was only a sugestion thrown open to all on here as maybe like me there may be people looking for a challange i have given prices of lead and turning it into shot by the long drop method then the retail price of shot makes it a nearly double your money job on a daily basis to run that in say 4 days a month and make over 10k per month is not dreaming i can say no more put it this way what do you think about brexit and maybe your answer is there cheers george
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1 minute ago, K85 said:
Theres a picture of it on internet about not paying redundency to workers.https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/business/business-news/aei-cables-owner-comes-under-12404188
ohh well done my man now does that not look the part thank you very very much cheers george
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8 hours ago, old'un said:
Crowd funding maybe?
What road in Britley is the tower?
if you go on google earth put the little man on walkabout in birtley head towards chester le street you will see it on the right cannot miss it 70 meters high white in a 6 or eight sides its a proper job what a shame if it gets pulled down
8 hours ago, atf said:Durham road, next to the Barley Mow estate
thanks are you in
46 minutes ago, K85 said:George Any ideas on seives and furneses extractors hoists. Grading equipment.
i rekon 50k will cover all that
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oh sorry boys forgot to tell you the 1600 propfit minus a few bits of expenses is a trade price so go on 4 ton and add 50pence a kilo to end user which will be about 3 quid a kilo inc vat so at mo we are producing at say 1600 plus vat and we sell at 2.50 plus vat a kilo we are now 90p a kilo which is 900 pounds a ton times only 4 ton is 3800 pounds per day sorry everybody was talking trade price all this time what a silly billy i am well at 3800 i can give the lads 4 weetabix a day and all the lead shot to victims on here at 3 quid a kilo nice round tower dropped none of this square stuff thats going about at higher prices now do you still think i am a nutter cheers g
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3 hours ago, blackbird said:
If it’s the Tom Jones @ West Midlands shooting ground I would stay well clear of the scammer, he cost me a six hour round trip to view a gun that was totally miss advertised.
i have always found him ok so whats the beef with him
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21 minutes ago, grrclark said:
I don't disagree George and if the numbers you outline are accurate then £150k upfront for £1500 per day back is an absolute no brainer, needs more than back of a fag packet numbers though.
eye and thats at only 4 ton a day as quick as you can melt it down it goes they honestly tell me this method is capable of 40 tons a day mind you will have to give the lads 3 weetabix not 2
4 hours ago, K85 said:Dont tempt me. I still regret not moving up north 15 years ago.
58 mile to the border then all the rabbits and pigeons you want knee probs wi daft liecences
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2 hours ago, K85 said:
Good look with it. If i was in the north east im game for trying. I get my antimony from a place near wolverhampton. I like to play with shot making
come up ill rent you a house i have 6 standing empty
17 hours ago, propercartridges said:so whats happened to express and eley say the tower is 100k to buy chuck another 50 k to fix it up with everything thats 150k nothing these days can you tell me anything that will return you say 1500 a day for that small outlay 150k i have spent more on crisps just restocked in fear of brexit 600k standing waiting to be used nearly 370 000 pounds worth of powders and still short of swag pallet of fibre wads is kicking 4000 pounds never mind we are totaly hopless having to import all components just a shame to see it get pulled down
100 days to get your money back then you on the pigs back
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16 hours ago, stumfelter said:
It's not unusual.... Sorry couldn't resist!
eye on the green green grass of hodnet ask for mary
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i was told years ago 50 feet from the crown of the road which to me ment the middle or white line but then in my head and travelling alot what about a duel carriage way where the 50 feet would nearly put you on the grass verge food for thought then the 300 yard fallout of shot which the local copper once quoted to me and also i believe the spec of the cpsa its hard to get a roadside shot where wind and every thing stacks up keep your heads down
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40 minutes ago, K85 said:
Anywere else in the world this would be a good idea. I dout youd get permision. Let alone the paper work
the paperwork i have in place on the said amounts for the quantitys per day without all the hubbalu the scrubbers for the enviromental side again is based on quantitys and must be new ingots not **** from building site ect again i have a letter from the envoiroment office and at the end of the letter they wish me good luck with this project the tower itself needs to be priced and indeed bought now if say gamebore can do it in the middle of the city of hull as we so often hear from not so high a building can we do it up here i am sorry i dont roll over that easy at 68 i still thrive on challangers quite frankly i love it just i cannot do it all cheers george
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4 hours ago, Gregsheffield said:
Hi. Im looking for some help. I need some load data for 20g has to be a 70mm as using in a semi
20 gauge cheddite hull
70mm
fibre wad
vectan A1 powder
2000 primer
i need the powder weight and also over shot card and wad sizes.
thanks
if 24 gram try the a1 load if 28 grams try the ao powder please put shot wieght in future bit confusing not knowing the charge load cheers g
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1 hour ago, propercartridges said:
on a1 try about 1.35 gram and 18mm wad that shud leave u about 11mm for your crimp overpowder card 4mm on loading 20 bore now cheers george 07714 323 909
or try ao powder
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2 hours ago, Gregsheffield said:
Hi. Im looking for some help. I need some load data for 20g has to be a 70mm as using in a semi
20 gauge cheddite hull
70mm
fibre wad
vectan A1 powder
2000 primer
i need the powder weight and also over shot card and wad sizes.
thanks
on a1 try about 1.35 gram and 18mm wad that shud leave u about 11mm for your crimp overpowder card 4mm on loading 20 bore now cheers george 07714 323 909
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4 hours ago, grrclark said:
What is the initial capital outlay to buy the tower and separate that from the wider factory works, then the cost of stripping the old equipment for cable hanging, re-purposing to be a shot drop tower with the necessary infrastructure to support melting the lead, the handing equipment to get the tons of lead to the top of the tower and of course dispositioning the made shot from the bottom, then the cost of fitting the necessary fume extraction to deal with the unavoidable health and safety and environmental legislation along with the containment and bunds to secure any lead polluted water from the collection area seeping into surface drains and the local water table, etc?
What is the cost of the raw material for lead ingots to melt down into the shot and what is the cost of storage and handling of that, plus the storage and handling of the made shot?
Also of all the cart's in the UK, how many are imported as complete with lead shot sourced at the local point of manufacture versus those are stuffed in the UK?
Gamebore drop their own lead I believe, but they are the only ones so the domestic market is you, Hull and who else and what is the estimated tonnage per day if you had say 60% of that market?
so whats happened to express and eley say the tower is 100k to buy chuck another 50 k to fix it up with everything thats 150k nothing these days can you tell me anything that will return you say 1500 a day for that small outlay 150k i have spent more on crisps just restocked in fear of brexit 600k standing waiting to be used nearly 370 000 pounds worth of powders and still short of swag pallet of fibre wads is kicking 4000 pounds never mind we are totaly hopless having to import all components just a shame to see it get pulled down
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On 24/04/2019 at 18:35, Continental Shooter said:
if you buy it i'll come working with you LOL
18 hours ago, Salmo said:Buy it yourself , my god you can afford it .
39 minutes ago, Hamster said:Why would you need the hassle and expense of a shot tower anyway, doesn't most shot get produced by the short drop method and besides, what kind of saving would making your own shot make ?
just do it i can make u 3 rich believe me i reckon 2 men at 100pounds each per day on 4 ton only can make you 1600 pounds per day better than drugs eh eh
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4 minutes ago, Hamster said:
Why would you need the hassle and expense of a shot tower anyway, doesn't most shot get produced by the short drop method and besides, what kind of saving would making your own shot make ?
how many carts are made in uk work that into tons of lead then on haulage alone from turkey and all other places over the water shipping handling charges is at least 120 pounds per ton lorrys running with containers from ports then returning the containers and a million other things that cost remember the short drop is a long method to produce quantitys the tower as quick as you open the tap the molten lead goes down theres not a short drop can gi you 40 tons a day keep feeding the furnace up stairs and away it goes just like a shower head i am 68 next and you who know me back 10 years and honest i would be doing it no zipp in young uns now
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19 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said:
hello, what a beauty and super reel, i hope you can find it a new home walker 👍
do you want it mr oldy
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if nick doesnot get it giz a ring cheers george 07714 323 909
Just now, propercartridges said:if nick doesnot get it giz a ring cheers george 07714 323 909
divint tell that fella peckham you are tying flies up there will b another court case
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17 hours ago, Salmo said:
Buy it yourself , my god you can afford it .
eye but who will run it i am not a octopuss with 10 or 12 legs who is this salmo anyway
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9 hours ago, AULD YIN said:
George, just do some deliveries in scotland and shoot at your customers perms
yes old fruit do u want carts at the moment trying to get up soon not bothered aboot shooting birds are nesting must be getting to soft in my old 68 years i have had my share if i kept records knee body wood believe me when up at forfar i wood not set up for less than 200 can even remember when getting 1 pound each for pigeons happy days john and no magnets then pure field craft c u soon jimmmy cheers george
3 hours ago, oowee said:I want the old days back when we just go out and shoot.
no pigeon shooting now is roll up stick a magnet out and shoot for most of them anyway cheers g
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mail order or shop means of getting them please dave cheers george