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  1. On 26. 2. 2018 at 20:49, WinchesterDave said:

    Interesting how it varies between different shooters. I'm going to stick with it for a bit to see if I was either, having a good day or infact it improves my performance! 

     

    Just a side note, what do people think of the likes of Teague chokes etc? Ive some Midas chokes which I use in my SX3 and Winchester and I feel as if the breaks and kills are better using them than the standard chokes. 

     

    Just interested really :good:

     

    Cheers chaps, 

     

    Dave 

    Comparing Browning factory Invector Plus chokes with Teagues actual measurements - factory chokes are more open:

    1/4 - Browning: 0.004, Teague: 0.010;

    1/2 - Browning: 0.012, Teague: 0.020

    3/4 - Browning: 0.018, Teague: 0.030

    1/1 - Browning: 0.031, Teague: 0.040

    If you have Teague tapered choke key you can compare the actual restrictions yourself.

    In praxis - with 1/2 (0.20)  you are already well in the tight territory i.e. you don't get much by using 3/4 or 1/1...IMO

  2. I had an Ultra Trap - that is beside the lettering the same gun. As others said - check if it is a Sporter (multichokes and sporter forend) or Trap (fixed 3/4 and 1/1 with trap forend). Then see the action blueing - I've seen discoloration on some, but the gun is made to last so it doesn't affect its shooting value.

     

    And I'd second Gordon's oppinion on handling - there are moments when I dearly regret selling it.

  3. Here is how I see it.

     

    There are close (20 yds-) to far (40 yds+) targets.

    Using sensible choke (1/4 - 1/2) most modern cartridges will pattern just fine between 25-35 yds. It is at -20yds (some) and at +40yds (more) differences appear.

    At the end one finds a general cartridge/choke combination that covers either close/mid or mid/far targests and will try to fill the missing void of close or far cartridge.

    So looking fo "close" carridge I pattern it at 20yds while looking for "far" cartridge I pattern it at 40 yds.

  4. I have shot 2 steel loads through 2 guns over 2 seasons at trap targets. Loads being RC2 24g and Clever Mirage Steel 28g both in #7 (EU - 2.5mm). Guns were Browning Trap Ultra with fixed 3/4 and 1/1 chokes and Miroku Mk70 with factory 1/2 and 3/4 flush chokes.

     

    1. Patterns - I haven't noticed any difference (I patten all my cartridges at 20 and 40m)

    2. Breaking of clays were the same, there were quite some clays picked after the shoot that had visible hits (grazed) but didnt brake - I don't know - I havent noticed any differnce - I have shot some of my best scores with steel there...

    3. I can't say

    4. We shoot steel to be eco friendly on one ground, however looking at all the plastic wads remaining on the ground I wonder if it is indeed so?

    5. See No 2

     

    Other guns that were regulary shot with RC2 24g steel were Beretta 686, Browning B25, Lanber, Perazzi with fixed chokes and Beretta 692 with factory 1/2 and 3/4 chokes and others I don't recall - there is nothing wrong with any as far as I know.

  5. They will be fine - just for a reference - last year my house was flooded and my cartridges were submerged under 2 feet of water for 5 hours.

    I tried a couple after 2 days - all went bang just left a lot of residue in the barrels.

    All were plastic - some with regular plastic wads, some with piston wads and some with steel shot.

     

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    First I have put them on the table and left them on room temperature for a week, then I stacked them in carbon boxes and left them in the heating room over the winter.

    Shot with them over this year - no missfire, performed flawlessly, clean burning and all...

  6. Lefty myself I bought my first gun - Browning Trap Ultra - with ajustable stock that I thought was mandatory. After shooting and twisting and turning the stock in all possible ways for 2 years I ended up shooting it back in neutral (zero) position. While I was solding my gun (was looking for sporter) I had to borrow a couple of other guns and found out that any Browning fitts me nice - tried 30 year old B25 on Trap course and shoot straight 20/20 immediately, then it was Browning GTI sporter on a local Compak shoot - scored 22/25 - both guns I have never shot before.

    Recently I bought Miroku MK70 sporter and couldn't be happier. All those guns mentioned have different stocks that are all neutral and guns themselves (to me that is) handle somehow familiar - so as guys before me mentioned - flip a coin - you can't miss either way.

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