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5 minutes ago, Flyboy1950 said:
I purchased one about 3 years ago and found a few problems with it. I returned it and even after it was returned there was still problems. The biggest thing was that the barrel alignment with the scope cut outs were not parallel to each other which resulted in the barrel pointing downwards about 4mm over the barrel length. I took 3 more from the supplier and they were all the same. opened all the boxes in the shop and they were all down cast. He told me he was returning them all to SMK.
I had hoped to recommend them to the young shooters in the club I have run for 30 years but sadly at that time I couldn't recommend them.
An easy to spot problem that by using a 3mm Allen key between the barrel and the air cylinder, slide it from the breech to the front of the rifle, fowls before half way. Also use a straight edge across the scope dovetail cut out and visually see how far out the barrel is. The barrel also gets dragged down by the barrel support that goes around both the barre and the cylinder, not very good engineering.
One of my club members got hold of one as he needed a light weight pcp because of a shoulder injury, He very judiciously bent the barrel upwards and that solved his problem. Luckily the rifle was out of warranty, but it has been faultless since.
Thank you. I’ll have a look at this closer before I spend more money on it.
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Had a 177 pr900w for a few years. Only used a handful of times. Prob less than 300 pellets through it.
have a decent hawke scope.
seems to be a problem with it being accurate shot after shot.
bought it originally for pest control but as it’s not accurate shot after shot ive not wanted to use it.
wondering if I should strip it and replace seals and fit a regulator, rebuild from scratch and then zero, or ditch it and get new pcp?any suggestions or recommendations appreciated.
cheers
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Just now, wymberley said:
Quick question which might provide some help.
Where are Opinel knives made? You should blend in nicely with the locals.
looking good. might need to pick me up a souvenier. would be a shame to get fish guts over one of those though.
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Just now, chrisjpainter said:
How attached are you to this particular knife? If it's a well loved item that you'd be sad to lose, I'd say it's not worth it, even if legal. All it would take is one overzealous guard and you've lost it. If it were me, I'd take the smaller one, then buy a cheap filleting knife over there if you can't get one from the kitchen.
thats what i though. not particulary attached to it, but didn't want the hassle of dealing with a security person, even though it would deep in my roofbox with the rest of the fishing kit.
i'll give it a miss and just take the little one, and will take (buy) a kitchen knife to the beach when i get there. its just easier to clean them with a bigger knife - thats the only reason for thinking of taking it.
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Quick question about knife laws.
i've historically kept a 4.25" hunting knife at the bottom of my fishing tackle box for dealing with preparing with mackerel when fishing.
i also have a small 2" lock knife for other small jobs.
i'm about to go to france in 2 weeks and wondered what the score was. will be fishing on the west coast. will i get into trouble if its found, or as its a tool for use in hunting/fishing, will that fit the exemption? it would stay in the tackle box until needed. am i best just to take the small knife and take a kitchen knife from the french house to the beach when i need it?
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Just now, oldypigeonpopper said:
hello, good scopes, and can understand not upsetting neighbours, happy shooting
you too.
last thing i want to do is give them constant noise popping off pigeons, and it either upsets them, or worse, they report me to the police. don't want to risk that due to having the SGC's.
i'm hopeful of being able to rent our local scout hut for a couple of hours a month to use their 1 acre site to do a bit of target practice. they use their 177's in the hut over 7 meters. i fancy taking my backstop and setting up a 20/30 meter range. i'm on the committee, so hopefully they'll waive it through....
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5 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:
hello, well done i thought you would have got more shots than that, what scope did you get off tony?
i'd have liked to fired a few more, but the neighbours have had builders in 7 days a week and whilst i use a few sandbags as a backstop, i didn't want to risk any incidents with them on scaffolding only 10 yards away.
it was a Hawke Vantage+3-9x40AO.
2 minutes ago, stut4 said:i'd have liked to fired a few more, but the neighbours have had builders in 7 days a week and whilst i use a few sandbags as a backstop, i didn't want to risk any incidents with them on scaffolding only 10 yards away.
it was a Hawke Vantage+3-9x40AO.
i've been careful on when i use it. its a quiet gun - i shoot from a kitchen window so its sounds louder to me, but i'd be interested to know how loud it is outside from 5-10 yards, so i might need to get an app on the phone to see. then might need to find that chap who sells the moderators.
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2 minutes ago, bruno22rf said:
Not a great fan of SMK but when you consider the price it's got to be worth a punt and practically any PCP has almost inbuilt accuracy due simply to the design, as long as it holds air and is comfortable/easy to shoot then all the bells and whistles of a gun 3 times the price doesn't kill anything more dead - it's also quite nice sometimes to shoot with a gun that's considered a bit of an underdog. Why are you struggling to get eye relief? - look up "reach forward" mounts and see if they would help - if so then I can send you a pair FOC, just PM me your address.
cheers bruno11rf. i'll have a look for a set of those reach forward mounts. it just feels like the stock is a bit on the short side, so my head feels a bit too close to the scope to get a good view when stock is up to shoulder. i suppose i could get one of those butt extender things. i've just pushed the scope as far forward as it will go, so i'll see how that goes.
indeed - gun does not pretend to be a £400/500 gun, but does the job i needed it for, so for the price i'm happy with it.
ps - the groupings were from around 11 yards away - not a massive distance, but its where my pigeons land, so thats how i've set it up. i'll hopefully be able to use it on a bit further distance over the next few weeks.
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On 23/06/2018 at 06:57, oldypigeonpopper said:
hello, how you getting on with the PR and new pump??????
rifle is working well.
as i have only been shooting in my garden, i've limited it to 6 shots at a time just for noise.took me 20 or shots to get my scope aligned - i ended up buying a new Hawke from Wilts Rod & Gun. Its now dialed in nicely, and i've just shot a round of 5 with all shows within a 10p piece.
i've used the pump twice. i think i'm getting around 30 shots before the pressure drops from 20 bar down to around 13 bar when i then refilled. pump performs well and does the job.
my only thoughts on the rifle..
my scope is mounted as far forward as it will go on the rifle mounting points. in an ideal world i'd prefer it 1 inch further away, but at present its performing well.
i'm left handed shooter - i find it easy to cock the rifle with my right hand, but it can be tricky with big fingers to get the pellet to land in the bed perfectly each time. its not that much of an issue, but requires a delicate finger due to the location of the scope adjuster knob. i've not yet used the 9 pellet magazine.
for c.£240 ish (exc scope) i'm happy with it. i've had 2 pigeons so far - could have had more, but i spent a long time - 1 week get the scope zero'd and i on;y ever get it out when my adjacent neighbours are out.
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4 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:
hello, i am thinking of a PR900 in 177 as quite a few on UKAGF bought one and pleased with the rifle, £250 for a PCP and pump ?????
@oldypigeonpopper - thanks for your previous advice pump and suggestion to look at the gun.
the pump does the job okay. i was bidding on a few BSA/Walther brand ones on ebay, but they ended up at over £80, and as previously mentioned i'm on a budget, so happy that the £40 pump is working. Its got a 2 year warranty, so if it breaks, i'll try (if the chinese seller still exists) to get a repair/replacement - but ultimately it gets the gun to 20 bar.
i got the pump for £40 delivered, the adaptor with additional quick release for £15 (which i endedup not needing as there was one in the SMK box) and the gun was £179. Phil said he was going to order a couple of guns in to sit on his shelf, but they'll be a few quid more as his retail price had gone up a bit since he ordered mine.
the only mod im considering is https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pr900w-Barrel-Band-And-Fill-Port-Dust-Cover/273232489283?hash=item3f9deceb43:g:l8YAAOSw1GlaY41H - but unless i get find one for c,£10 i won't immediately be doing it.
i'll report how it goes when i've had a good go with it.
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4 hours ago, DC177 said:
...cos I’ve been there and in 6 months you’ll want to buy something better. It’s a false economy.
don't get me wrong - i'd like to be able to spend £400+ on a PCP, but that ain't going to happen - the wife tightly controls my shooting budget. if i could have found another brand pcp for £180 i'd have bought it. i needed something quieter in my garden than a shotguns for pest control; wanted a fixed barrel as i was convienced my last breakbarrel didn't align properly, didn't want CO2, as it might sit unused for 3 months, and the 9 shot magazine was a bonus. the under barrel guns i came across were at least the same price or more than this.
my search over the past couple of months indicates there are only a handful on Freeads secondhand, and they are being advertised at near new prices, so i'll probably lose less on this secondhand than i would spending £400 on a better brand and selling it when it didn't get used.
out the box its supposedly 10.5 lbft, which is fine for my needs.
i acknowledge it won't be up for competition use on a target range like a gun 3-5 times the price, but if it is used on a range it'll only be for a bit of fun.1 minute ago, oldypigeonpopper said:hello, sounds good so let us know how goes, thinking of one myself with same pump, PS DONT FORGET TO CLEAN BARREL FIRST and be carefull on breech seal wooly mop and white spirit, cheers
cheers. will do.
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2 minutes ago, DC177 said:
SMK.....?
each to their own. most of the reviews i read were very complimentary. why would i spend 2-3 x as much on a gun which might only had 5 shots a month for vermin and maybe 50 shots every few months for target practice?
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On 24/05/2018 at 12:17, oldypigeonpopper said:
hello, oh thats not usual for WRG, good on Phil then, nice chap to deal with and excellent gun smith, good luck with new rifle,
SMK PR900W 177 picked up from Bozard's yesterday. there was a slight delay in delivery as SMK were awaiting a shipment of the 177's. he said he was impressed with it for the price considering its 1/3 of the big name ones. i'm impressed with the quality. The stock is a bit smelly - either from the oil on the wood, or from manufacturing.
just need to get some time to dial the scope in, and will then arrange to make contact with the chap on here who does the 3D printed moderators - although its not particular noisy, as i'll be plinking in the garden just want to ensure its as quiet as possible.
i also purchased one of these stirrup pumps - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4500PSI-AIR-GUN-RIFLE-PUMP-FILLING-PUMP-STIRRUP-3-STAGE-CHARGER-PCP-AIRGUNS/142659137416?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 works fine to charge the rifle to max green pressure and £40 price was good. I bought an adaptor from JS Ramsbottom, but there was a quick release one in the box.
thanks for all the advice on this site.
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20 minutes ago, Mice! said:
ask the old boys around the allotment, they'll know who to ask and who not to ask, drop in that there aren't many song birds about if it's true because of the magpies, and as for the pigeons they won't be popular.
good luck
will do. theres an AGM next week too so might try and get along to that as might have a chance to ask a few questions. in the meantime i'm building a frame to net most of my produce so hopefully that keep them at bay for the moment.
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1 minute ago, Westley said:
Possibly along with his Shotgun Certificate too !
gents. thank you for the advice. think i will continue with the netting and cds for the timebeing. i'll ask my local councillor about their pest control plans. i won't do anything which isn't approved by them in triplicate - i value my SGC and keeping out of trouble too much. No doubt some allotment holders will object against pest control.
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36 minutes ago, Old farrier said:
It’s easier to ask for forgiveness and apologise
than
to ask for and get permission
just my thoughts
larson trap and say nothing
best of luck
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thank you for this tip. it would be a damn bit easier than getting permission to shoot. if it was my own land, i'd just shoot, but i expect the council will have problems. i'll read up on the larsen trap and see if i can integrate it into my patch.
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3 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said:
hello, or they might charge you a fee for shooting as i hear they are short of some expense money, a friend shoots on a village allotment but he is on the parish council. as your post you can only ask, ?????
good point. thank you for this. i saw one of the local parish councillors (not to speak to) at the allotment at the weekend..might need to keep an eye out for him, and then ask his opinion in the first instance. if he wants to save his veggies he might be prepared to put a good spin on the reasons
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1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:
Good luck with that one, let us know how high the lilly livered liberal types on the Council jump when they get your request.
thats exactly what i thought... i expect they embrace woodies, rats and magpies!
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I thought i'd ask for a bit of advice here about my planned request before making a ballsup of correspondence with council.
i've just taken over an allotment plot within a 3 acre site. total site is around 300 feet x 500 and bordered by major A road on 1 side which is around 10' below the boundary of the site, a minor b road which borders 2 sides, and the 4th side is a cul-de-sac entrance. its surrounded by dense trees, shrubs and undergrowth.
its owned and managed by the local parish council....(so doubt i will get very far with my plan)..
i went down there last night and 2 adjacent plots were being harvested by 2 flocks of magpies - about 8 in total. they disappeared when i got within 30'. apparantly woodpidgeons only visit the site when field crops run low. a few plots have decoys such as cd's and scarecrows but they don't appear to have spooked the magpies.
i was going to ask the Allotment association first if they have any existing pest control, and then approach the parish council to see their view as to if they would allow an air rifle permission for pest control. shooting from a height of 5' would in the vast majority of the plot put the trajectory of the shot
i've got BASC insurance, air rifle experience, and also a SGC holder, but would only use an air rifle to thin the numbers of these out, and only whilst they are on the ground. no tree shooting. there is a 2-3' raised border all around the site so hopefully they;ll see that is a good natural backstop , plus a shot from 5-6' height always put the shot firmly in the ground. plan to use a silenced non FAC PCP. closest residential houses are probably 100-200' from edge of plot, and considering i was rotorvating at 9:30 the other night it didn't seem to bother anyone...
i acknowledge that if any permission was given, i'd need to put up signs when shooting, have to do a risk assessment and only agree to shot in a certain way. my fear is that if the outdoor manager of the council doesn't agree with shooting, it'll get dismissed without reading.
does anyone think there is any mileage in this, or just a waste of time?
cheers in advance.
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Just now, oldypigeonpopper said:
hello, is that Bozard and Co ? did you not find tony ok ?
hi, i phoned WRG twice - friday and yesterday asking for price and delivery time. gave my details twice and the chap who took the details never got back to me. ?
then contacted Phil at Bozard and Co who got back to me within a few hours and just confirmed hes placed an order waiting for delivery.
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i've placed an order with my local dealer in Baydon. SMK are out of the .177's for a few weeks, so just have to sit tight now for a few weeks. in the meantime i've ordered the filling adaptor and will get the stirrup pump ordered this weekend.
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Just now, oldypigeonpopper said:
sent PM
thank you.
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1 minute ago, oldypigeonpopper said:
hello, i have some spare scopes
do you mind me asking make, power and the price you're looking for?
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Just now, oldypigeonpopper said:
hello, you do need a scope that is shockproof for a springer, unless it shoots smooth or tuned with a top hat and bits,
thank you for the tip! thats why it was useless on the junior springer i have then. i'll see what its like on the pcp and take it from there. 95% of my shooting will be from 10-20 yards, so i think a 4-5x magnification should be okay. my naked eye is a bit weak at that distance when aiming for a head shot
Upgrade PR900w or replacement ?
in Airgunners
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Cheers. Just had a look at it and tried running 4mm Allen key down it. Tighter at bottom like flyboy suggested. I had an aftermarket barrel band for the front which I’ve just added a strip of tape too on the inner side to give it a few thou extra lift between the barrel and air reserve. Better than it was. Think I’ll upgrade to a different model. Want the confidence of shot on shot before I try my pests. Last gun was a stoeger gasram springer and that would put each shot almost on top of the last, so this was A disappointment in comparison.