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Theres much said about the hmr, laser accuracy, 5 shots in a 5p circle at 100 yards, cloverleafing at 100 yards, 165 yard head shots on rabbits.....easy etc,etc. What I would like to know is what the pw collective think is a reasonable grouping at say 100 yards in reasonably ideal field conditions. The reason I ask is I've had my CVZ455 hmr from new. Its had about 450 rounds through it and try as I might, I cannot get anywhere near the accuracy it seems others find easy to achieve. When new it was throwing shotgun type holes at the target, it was shocking!! This was with hornadays. I changed to remmingtons and the group tightened but was still pretty awful in my opinion. The best I could achieve was about a 4" group, but equally spread. I've tried 3 different scopes, and tonight I took the scope off my pinhole accurate FAC air and tried that. I took the remaining few remingtons and a couple of boxes of winchesters. I did further tests changing the mod thats on it, a wildcat whisper for a sak. There was a significant difference with the Sak, it opened the group right up!!! So Wildcat back on! The remingtons were all over the place. The winchesters, again, significantly different with tighter groups, but vstill un acceptable IMHO. I have tried it cleaned to within an inch of its life, and I mean clean. The groups were terrible until it had 40 or so shots though it then it settled down. And it wasn't because it was moving crud around inside the barrel.........it was CLEAN!! So tonight, winchesters, wildcat mod, perfect conditions, this is the best I could do using the truck door as a rest. The target has an inch centre for a measurement reference. I was as happy as you can be that all the shots were squeezed off at the bull, no snatches. Honest opinions and advice would be appreciated even if its confirmation that I'm a **** shot My next route is to get a someone else to see what they can do with the same combo.

what are your thoughts on this guys? http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/10339070.Police_chiefs_issue_tougher_gun_licensing_guidance/