TJ91 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) confused!!!! i have just picked up an old remington 11 87 it has 3 chokes with it.. Choke 1 reads - REMINGTON IMP CYL choke 2 reads - REMINGTON MOD and choke 3 reads - REMINGTON FULL STEEL OR LEAD question is, which choke do i use when firing 32g 4 steel shot?? i would of used mod or imp cyl but neither say anything about steel on them whereas the full choke says 'steel or lead' this has totally baffled me as i thought steel was to be fired through half choke or less! i know its an american gun with thick heavy barrels but i thought the rule was half or less with any steel shot More info on the gun - REMINGTON 11 87 PREMIER (atleast 7 year old) 3 INCH CHAMBERS, PROOFED TO 1200 BAR Edited October 22, 2011 by TJ91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 I tend to use IC (1/4) choke for all my steel shot. Does the job and no risk of damaging the chokes that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted October 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 I tend to use IC (1/4) choke for all my steel shot. Does the job and no risk of damaging the chokes that way i always have done in the past and i think i will with this gun. just cant understand why the full choke says 'steel and lead' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) i always have done in the past and i think i will with this gun. just cant understand why the full choke says 'steel and lead' I know some guns have 'adjusted' chokes for steel shot, so it might say full but really could be standard half choke... Does that make sense? I've seen it a few times bow, it's like an alternative choke measuring system. And, some manufactures also make tight chokes that have been specifically made to cope with steel shot. Edited October 22, 2011 by Wildfowler12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted October 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 I know some guns have 'adjusted' chokes for steel shot, so it might say full but really could be standard half choke... Does that make sense? I've seen it a few times bow, it's like an alternative choke measuring system. And, some manufactures also make tight chokes that have been specifically made to cope with steel shot. yes i have heard of some aftermarket chokes made specially for steel but this choke came new with the gun when bought and the gun doesnt even have a fleur de lys stamp on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) yes i have heard of some aftermarket chokes made specially for steel but this choke came new with the gun when bought and the gun doesnt even have a fleur de lys stamp on it Well I've recently learnt abit more about fleur de lys proofing. I assumed (like most people) that if a gun didn't have the fleur de lys then it wasn't proofed for HP steel. But, I've now been told by browning and benelli that the fleur de lys is the standard proof mark for a 1370bar test IN THE UK. My benelli is proofed to the same standard, but as it's tested in the Italian proof house I doesn't have a fleur de lys stamp. So the gun may well be proofed for HP steel but not have the stamp. It should give more info in the manual if you have it. Edited October 22, 2011 by Wildfowler12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Note: The following specifications apply to choke tubes and choke tube barrels only. Steel shot can be used in improved cylinder or modified choke tubes without any special notation on the tube. However, steel shot can only be used in full choke tubes that state “lead or steel”. Steel shot cannot be used in a fixed full choke. The above, from Remington website, should answer your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted October 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Note: The following specifications apply to choke tubes and choke tube barrels only. Steel shot can be used in improved cylinder or modified choke tubes without any special notation on the tube. However, steel shot can only be used in full choke tubes that state “lead or steel”. Steel shot cannot be used in a fixed full choke. The above, from Remington website, should answer your question. thankyou for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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