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Well I did use the search facility that's how I got this thread. I have not been digging up ancient posts by reading them all !

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Any update on this please ?

Pleasure to do business with you. Hope my boy's toy lives up to my expectations.

Can't see anything in the inbox !

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I found the steel shot recipes shown below on the Nobel website Anybody tried any of them ? My link Powder C7 SV steelshot Gauge/Shotshell: 12/70 Primer: CX 2000 Shot load: 24 g Powder load g.: 1,18 Average velocity at 2,5 m: 400 m/s Average pressure: 560 bars Powder AS steelshot Gauge/Shotshell: 12/70 Primer: M 688 Shot load: 24 g Powder load g.: 1,35 Average velocity at 2,5 m: 410 m/s Average pressure: 590 bars Powder AO steelshot Gauge/Shotshell: 12/70 Primer: M 686 Shot load: 32 g Powder load g.: 1,75 Average velocity at 2,5 m: 415 m/s Average pressure: bars 750 bars Powder TECNAn steelshot Gauge/Shotshell: 12/70 Primer: M 686 Shot load: 32 g Powder load g.: 1,75 Average velocity at 2,5 m: 380 m/s Average pressure: 670 bars

The problem with the standard loads 70mm is the 12 newtons limit in the cip rules. speed m/s * wt grams/1000 must not exceed 12. So increasing the load reduces the speed because of cip. For the foreshore and longer ranges I have been thinking about getting some Black Gold 1500 fps 28g lead and stripping out the lead components and reloading with steel shot and wad. To my simple mind for the same shot weight it should have a similar speed. A fast steel 3.5mm pellet should have plenty of penetration. Anybody know anything about the theory before I do it ? Not too concerned about a lighter steel load as my 40 yds pattern tests are between 80 and 90 % through 3/8 and 1/2 chokes. I read that Mallard only need a 80 pellet count in a 30 inch circle and 3.5mm steel should demolish them.Starting with about 150 3.5mm steel pellets and a tight pattern easily achieves the 80 pellets beyond 40 yards. I will stick with SAGA 34g no5 3mm for teal on a flight pond at closer ranges.

Hopefully you are still intact- how did your tests go ? I tried a simple change of reducing the pellets in a 32g steel cartridge by 4g to a 28g and left the other components the same with the exception of trying some flour as a buffer to help tighten the pattern. The crimp was not as good as the original and the test fire was disappointing - no change in the pattern efficiency and I suspect not quite the same velocity ( I expected more) from the impact on a sheet of tin. Maybe the guys querying the sealing of the brass case are right.

Well he has not rung me or replied to my email so I have not bought it !

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