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Comparing the cost of testing against years and years of not having to treat so many illnesses/diseases is just wrong. (won't say what I was tempted to say) The cost of re-vamping the whole NHS pales into insignificance when compared to the savings. Anyway I can't be ***** to even try to work out you lot any more so this is adieu. I'll leave you to squirm (Or not in most of your cases) while your precious leader tells a lot more lies in the house in a few minutes. BYE

Sigh... Don't know why I expected anything different really.

This is the place for all you armchair critics. I'll start. Imagine a doctor calling you and telling you what's wrong with you even though you have no symptoms. Imagine how easy it would be to treat serious illness if caught at the very beginning. At the moment by the time a cancer is found your body could be riddled with it, sometimes rendering it inoperable. What's the cost, not just to the NHS in time taken to heal it but also the cost to the family and the work situation or business. Imagine the savings for the NHS in terms of bed hours saved, the amount of medication /equipment needed, to say nothing of no waiting lists and more time spent per patient. How could this happen? You re-vamp the NHS and make the Phlebotomy section the heart of the system, the gateway to the NHS. We've all had the scenario where we're sent for a blood test only to have to go back a couple of months later because it wasn't that, lets look for something else. WHAT IF at the age of say 8yrs old, and then every five yrs everybody went to Phlebotomy and they took enough blood to test for everything (I know that's oversimplifying it but along those lines). The savings would be astronomical, not just for the NHS but globally, and not just financially but in terms of sick days, staff shortages etc etc etc.

Another one asking me for ideas and solutions! Tell you what, I'll start a new thread on ideas and solutions with absolutely no politics. No he said she said. That'll sort the wheat from the chaff.

I don't have any views on anti semitism. To be honest, I don't understand it. All I know is the Jews have been persecuted for hundreds of years and I don't know why. I suspect it has something to do with money.

***??? You actually think do you? That's a surprise. Did it hurt much?

Labour/Tory, it's just a name. You think I'm a Labour voter? Wrong. I used to be but not for a while. They are found wanting in some areas but their goals are better for the country and the people in it. If you look at it objectively, What tools do they have compared to the torys? Generalising now, Most of em don't come from an Eton/Harrow background where they're taught from birth how to make money. They don't have anything like the budget that the tories have to work with. Tory background and money enables them to promise the world and give nothing. Their focus is all about getting re-elected and they're very good at it. They've been proven liars time and time again and still never admit it or say sorry. They get £50 whilst the rest of us get many times more. They're rotten to the core and because they focus every year to make more "haves" they get away with it. My vote for the Reform party is the only way I have to register my disappointment with the whole system and hope they get enough votes to make someone take notice.

No one asked you to address anything. I merely thanked the Panarama program for highlighting what quite a lot of people are going through in this our caring society. Did any of you watch the program? One woman with children was wrapped in a blanket because she couldn't afford to put the heating on. She had no money left at all and she was praying the £2 something left on the prepayment meter would last for the next three days until she got some money. Do any of you know how horrendously expensive the tariffs are on prepayment meters. It's the same damn electricity for gods sake.

If not for Labour and the unions (and I know they sometimes went too far) your wages and working conditions would be nothing like they are now. The benefit system wants looking at but don't lump the bludgers (an Australian term that I rather like) in with people who have absolutely nothing and no means to get themselves any further up the ladder. As a so called "caring society" aren't we duty bound to help them? And as for punishing the workers? what do you think is happening right now? Filled your car up lately? Got your energy bills through yet? And don't tell me that this sorry lot couldn't give more than 5p back on fuel duty because they can.

Define "performing", do you mean doing badly for the majority of people or doing badly for the more well off element?

You're one of the worst offenders. You're nasty, aggressive, you poo poo anything that doesn't suit you and you never ever add anything constructive to the debate. You're deluded enough to tout the tory party as getting Brexit done!!! what a joke. First of all Cameron went stone cold when he agreed to the referendum thinking no one would take it up. If it had been left up to the tories we'd still be in. Apart from that Brexit still isn't done. The biggest thing on the ticket was immigration. They've done really well with that one right? For what it's worth it was Nigel Farage that got Brexit through

What a load of ****! Name me one promise or pledge the torys have fulfilled from their manifesto to the present day?

Lets get this straight once and for all. Labour stands up for people not money. What does that actually mean? It means that if you want a happy society (meaning ALL society) certain things have to be in place like a police force, an NHS, a fire service and decent wages for all. What do all those utilities have in common? THEY COST MONEY. They don't make money. Under a tory government, these are the first to take a hit. A bit like the first out the door in a failing business is the cleaner. This is why, if you get burgled, you're lucky if you get a crime number let alone someone knocking on your door. It's true big investors don't like Labour because their raison d'être is to MAKE MONEY. So what does the Labour party have to do in order for EVERYONE to be happy? You work it out.

OK, from here on in only those that have seen the Panarama programme that this thread pertains to are allowed to post. If you all come back with all this **** after watching it then I'll have the measure of you. Thus far none of you have tried to address the problem and have no compassion whatever for those that are in desperate need NOW. You make me ashamed to be an Englishman.

It's a very good country to live in if you're a "Have".