Bagsy
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Nice one, really looking forward to this.
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Could have ironed the t-shirt ;-)
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bagsy, it has been necessary for many years, you talk about cost, well we dish out 10 bill a year to people who dont like us, surely half a bill could be held back to arm our coppers. If you still cant see this, then why dont we do the fashionable thing and compromise, rubber bullets, agree with that then instead of real rounds?
Ah, now if it was at the expense of the millions we waste on shoring up false economy's abroad then I'd jump at the chance - now there's a compromise. But that's an argument for another day.
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Don't worry mate, you can share Bazz's scoff, he doesn't need it all.
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Don't worry I can't see it happening any time soon the politicians or police could never agree one way or another.
Probably for the reasons mentioned. Funny old thing that.
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Ordnance, I don't disagree with everything you say and have sympathy with the police. But arming them all isn't the answer IMO, it simply isn't necessary or cost effective.
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There you go, give yourself a round of applause. What a wonderful argument you put forward ;-)
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You said it wouldn't cost much. Clearly it will - wages (270000 weeks worth), training facilities, trainers, weapons, ammo, resources, allowances, refresher training, time putting new laws through parliament etc etc etc.
Massive costs and money we haven't got. For what return? Who's gonna pay? Can we afford the 270000 weeks lost police work? What's going to suffer as a result?
Commensurate with the threat, remember?
Edit - but I'm just a dimwit who doesn't think things through, apparently :-)
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135,000 police in the UK - that's a pretty damn big bill for the tax payer to foot, and the equivalent of 270,000 weeks in lost police time.Two weeks basic firearms training hardly that expensive.
Is the threat that bad, seriously?
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Good stuff, numbers have risen nicely!!
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No it doesn't, it says I can't be bothered with it. The points you make provide no evidence at all, as I've already said. You disagree, I can live with that.
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Ordnance, you jump all over the place with your argument, do some research man.
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How are the squads being sorted?
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Glad the dog's ok. I'm guessing the small claims court will be your only option if he refuses to pay.
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This happend near me 2 weeks ago police took the dog had it put down
Wow, that's a proactive response! Good to hear.
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I'm still to see any convincing evidence to suggest all police should be armed. Isolated incidents are exactly that - isolated. How many murders involving firearms could have been prevented by armed police - I'm guessing very few if any.
Terrorism was quoted but again not a single killing would have been prevented.
The police themselves don't want to be armed. Why should we, what actual difference would it make? If anything there's a real risk gun crime would go up as criminals arm themselves in the knowledge the police would be armed.
Heck, most on here winge when joe public ring 'em because there's a cammo clad bloke in a field with a shotgun.
I'm far happier in the knowledge there a units specially trained for these events, though more may of course be needed.
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The risk in the UK is no higher or lower than a lot of countries that arm the police, most if not all of the terrorist attacks have taken place in England and not N Ireland.
Which terrorist attacks are you talking about? If your referring to IRA/PIRA then you need to do a little research, or did I miss the fact that the army were needed over there for nothing all those years?
If we're talking about the AQ attacks over here, please let me know which could have been stopped by armed police before they happened.
A soldier is killed in cold blood and suddenly we want to arm the police, get the army in and set up militias? God help us if that's the general opinion.
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Yes, and ban talking to passengers in cars.
In years to come there will be threads like this 'I can't believe people were allowed to talk to passengers. It's a miracle we're all still alive to tell the tale"
Makes sense where Bazza's concerned, or find a way of banning his backside.
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The difference is we aren't all in Northern Ireland. Arming the police here wouldn't be commensurate with the risk.
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Whether or not we need more armed police is a more worthy debate. I don't know how stretched the existing armed units are but we need to provide appropriately trained and equipped officers to deal with the problem - though this needs sensibe and balanced against need. I certainty don't believe in arming all police as it's not needed and the financial costs would be massive, not the mention the training and legal implications. I think we have it about right now, provided they're not run off their feet.
As for arming off duty squaddies, not a chance in hell.
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I am going to give the benefit of doubt here and assume that this is a wind up!
Loving the cap badge!
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Someone else's words shared on FB.
Just out for a walk after an early stack
Not looking for trouble, not watching my back
Mothers with prams holding hands with their kids
Not paying attention to the car as it skids
Caught completely off guard not expecting what comes
One man with a knife another with guns
No chance of defence no chance to fight back
Looking for help as the cowards attack
An angel arrives as the light turns to grey
A woman attempts to steer attackers away
My last thought of 'Thank You' never strays from my brain
As my body shuts down and I feel no more pain.
I look to my left and I look to my right
Thousands of squaddies are all that's in sight
Uniforms are crisp and their faces are clean
No sign of anger or hate to be seen
As if by command they salute all as one
The RSM smiles, says 'Welcome home son"
Steady the drums.... Stand Easy Drummer Rigby, see you in the re-org mucker.
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Fantastic stuff, I've really enjoyed the commemorations this week. Watched the film again yesterday followed by the programme following Johnny Johnson returning to the dam and finding the crash site of the original plane he flew in.
It brought a lump to my throat on more than one occasion. We owe them all one hell of a debt of gratitude.
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Signed up and looking forward to it!
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Bring it on!!