[Side by Side Club]

That's a corker. Something about buying side by sides is addictive once you start. Not dissimilar to pigeon shooting.

[A few at roost.]

Sport of the Gods. Looking forward to a few afternoons over Christmas.

[Side by Side Club]

Good to see plenty of members using side by sides.  

[Cartridge choice]

Experimentation, discussion and a bit of kit banter are part of the fun for many of us. If I was a professional pigeon shooter I would probably use an auto and something like 32 grams of 6 shot. But I'm not, so I prefer using side by sides and light loads. In the past 40 years I've tried plenty of options from trap guns with 36 gram loads to 21 grams in 28 bores and missed plenty of birds with all of them! Looking back over days in the hide or flighting, ballistics have not been particularly significant to numbers in the bag and had no bearing at all on the memorability. 

[Cartridge choice]

28gm Comp X kill pigeons perfectly well out to about as far as I can hit them. And I can shoot them all day long through my side by sides. 

[Llechweddygarth]

These videos are very bad for the shooting fraternity. Pattern 40gm 3s (or any load the posers use) at 80 yards and then tell me you'd be confident of hitting a pheasant's vitals even if you could put the centre of the pattern on the bird every time. And this doesn't even allow for a 3 dimensional shot string. 

[What's happened to Justcartridges?]

Just for the other side of the coin, I'll give a shout out for JC. Yes, not the cheapest but a better range than any gun shop, five minutes to order and one day delivery work for me. I don't buy anywhere else and they have never let me down.

[Grouse Cartridge]

I bought a few thousand Express 29 grm 6.5 Supreme Grouse for pigeons (red cartridges easier to find than black) and they were fine. Can't say I noticed a difference to any other mild recoil game cartridge. 

[Hull cartridge.... is someone taking the peee]

Anyone who falls for the fantasy marketing is rip off fodder. New types coming into shooting without a support network of fathers, grandfathers, uncles and older brothers to provide points of reference are easy to con.  

[Paper cartridges 12 &16 bore 65 mm.]

Bought a slab of 12 bore Express 30g 6 paper and they were fine. Have had a few left overs kicking about for a couple of years with no swelling.

[What cartridge will you be using for this pheasant season?]

Pill of choice for the side by sides is still RC Professional Game 30g 6shot for pigeons and everything else. No scientific justification; they just seem to work.

[Now these do look good.]

Anyone compared these to Chris Green's "Traitor" version of the same theme? 

[sillosocks]

I use various patterns depending on the situation but often deploy 48 Silos at a time. Easy to transport and provide good movement even in a very slight breeze. No hesitation to recommend them.

[Mk38 forend]

Depending on the extent of cracking you may be able to have it pinned and glued.

[Reloading Paper cased cartridges]

1 hour ago, dipper said:

Banana oil get it from model aircraft shop. Dipper.

Explains why I can't shoot straight.

[Reloading Paper cased cartridges]

2 hours ago, matone said:

You could,but I`ve never bothered to do it as I don`t use them in wet conditions.

OK. Thanks.

[Reloading Paper cased cartridges]

This may be a silly question, but I wonder if you have to re-varnish the crimped area after reloading?

[Cartridges Suitable For Pigeon]

On 22/01/2018 at 13:32, wymberley said:

Yep, I'm now of the opinion that that is increasingly the in vogue opinion. To me, the humble woodpigeon is arguably our finest sporting quarry and as such deserves better. As I'm in a very small minority on here, I think I'll leave it there.

Cheers.

Certainly with you on that point. After 40 years of shooting I enjoy a day on the pigeons more than anything else. A major influence on clean "dead in the air" kills seems to be a dense pattern delivering multiple hits. I only use fibre, so for pure decoying Just Cartridges CSP Comp clay load of 6.5 28gr works very well out to around 40 yards. For general stuff I use RC SIPE or NSI SIPE 32gr 6 shot.  For my favourite activity of flighting a few over the deep North Yorkshire valleys I use 35gr or 36gr English 5 shot by Gamebore or Express, both of which throw great patterns out of my tight choke Miroku guns. Cartridge cost is not a consideration.

[Green Shoot Cartridges]

2 minutes ago, wymberley said:

Please do. I am obliged to use fibre but it looks as though these would be a viable option. Just a shame there's no 6&1/2s or 7s in their pigeon range. Would be interested to see if their detailed prices remain  currently valid.

Thanks, Wymberley, I'll report back. 

[Green Shoot Cartridges]

2 minutes ago, dodeer said:

01929 405101

Thanks, Dodeer.

In case members might find it useful, I will try to get a delivery of 32g GreenShoots and report back on a comparison with RC SIPE fibre 32g which, for me, are the cartridge to beat. I prefer the shooting characteristics of normal plastic wads but won't use them.

If George from Proper is reading I would very much like his opinion on these wads. As previous members have said, it would seem like the way to go.

Thanks,

Milo.

[Green Shoot Cartridges]

40 minutes ago, fronty61 said:

I`ve used the Armusa ammo at Purbeck for some time, in 12 and 28 bore, they perform well in all my selection of Wabbitbosher bargains, and my better Brownings, also for my walkup and decoy game..good price, and accepted on the Somerset estate where I`ve been shooting for 10 years. I did research and am confident that they do degrade as advertised..hope this helps.

Thanks, Fronty. Very helpful. Couple of questions - 

I also use a 28 bore from time to time. I can't see any reference on their website to a degradable wad version in 28 bore. Can you tell me what load you are using?

Do you have an email or phone number for Purbeck as I would like to put in an order.

Thanks,

Milo.

[Green Shoot Cartridges]

The third-party test that I found online was positive. 

[Green Shoot Cartridges]

Thanks, guys. My understanding is that these water soluble versions do degrade properly and quickly, unlike the photo-degradable wads. would like to test them as it seems the sensible way ahead. 

[Green Shoot Cartridges]

Hi All,

I would be grateful for the experiences of any members who have used cartridges from Purbeck Shooting Supplies, or elsewhere, loaded with the water soluble Green Shoot "plastic" wads.

Have done a search on this topic and found nothing.

Thanks, Milo.

[Armed police office shoots himself!]

Well

Apparently there's no such thing as a accidentall discharge only bad /sloppy/careless gun handleing by civilians

 

Except it appears when a armed officer shoots his own foot

It becomes a accidental discharge

 

 

Hopefully he won't get full paid sick leave or a early pension through carelessly disabling his self

 

All the best

Of

Edit

According to the statistics once a fortnight has become the norm for this to happen

Can't help thinking there's either a touch of complacency or slight problem with the training

Negligent discharge. Never amusing at the time. One of my Lance-Sergeants shot himself in the foot at Lydd and Hythe in 1986 about 30 minutes before Maradona did his hand of God trick. I was waiting for the ambulance in the control room when the goal went in! Ah, the good old days.