jock308 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 (edited) Hi Guys Rifle withdrawn from sale. To settle this little matter please see topic at gunboards.com, which I started http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php...ld-No4-question If anyone feels like apologising please feel free to do so. If not an expert do not pass expert opinion. Jim Edited February 5, 2010 by jock308 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
night owl Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 mate. please advice buyers why it has matching numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock308 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 mate. please advice buyers why it has matching numbers Some Enfields are made up from spare parts and do not have matching numbers on action, bolt and bottom of forend, this rifle has matching numbers which indicates it is original. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
night owl Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 incorect . the ser no on the bolt is fake numbers are to big should be half that size plus they were stamped on and not scribed on .including the numbers on the side plate . mounting holes are also incorect there in the rong place also you have a mk 3 sighting system on it not a mark 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambu13 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Why did you ask him why it has matching numbers just to tell him he was wrong?why not just pm him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
night owl Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 as states its a original with matching numbers which it is not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambu13 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 But why go about it like that?seems like you just wanted to show him up? you could have just pointed it out no fuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptrangmar Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Where are you situated. Please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 But why go about it like that?seems like you just wanted to show him up? you could have just pointed it out no fuss. It's fairer to anybody reading this tread, that's why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulABF Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 incorect .the ser no on the bolt is fake numbers are to big should be half that size plus they were stamped on and not scribed on .including the numbers on the side plate . mounting holes are also incorect there in the rong place also you have a mk 3 sighting system on it not a mark 2 You need to teach your head dobber where the full stop and caps lock buttons are located. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock308 Posted February 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 incorect .the ser no on the bolt is fake numbers are to big should be half that size plus they were stamped on and not scribed on .including the numbers on the side plate . mounting holes are also incorect there in the rong place also you have a mk 3 sighting system on it not a mark 2 The serial nos on the bolt and side are both scirbed not stamped, to state the numbers on the bolt are fake from a photo is a bit bold, may I point out this is a close up (look at the size of the bolt handle to get perspective). The mounting holes on the side were to allow a previous owner to mount a no 32 scope mount, if they are in the wrong place wonder how he got the scope mount to fit. The sights are what came with the rifle, I used a scope with this rifle. Many thanks for your interest. Jim Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock308 Posted February 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 (edited) Where are you situated.Please I am situated in Dundee, Scotland, I have updated my profile to show this thanks. Jim Edited February 4, 2010 by jock308 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8371 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 i was an armorer for my cadets (CCF) back when the Lee Enfields were standard issue (21 years ago , before the Cadet Ensigns 5.56mm SA80 single shot copies). i always had to check the 2 differing numbers on a rifle, firstly being the rifle unique number and secondly, the bolt number. At no point did the 2 numbers ever match. A genuine .303 never had and never would have 2 matching numbers. However i do agree with certain people on here for pointing out that it would be better to PM than to make someone on here that doesn't know better, seem like a fool. Just because you know guns, don't forget, at some point you were 'green' as well. Thats my tuppence worth, anyways.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loach369 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 A genuine .303 never had and never would have 2 matching numbers. Absolute rubbish. Who told you that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loach369 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 incorect .the ser no on the bolt is fake numbers are to big should be half that size plus they were stamped on and not scribed on .including the numbers on the side plate . mounting holes are also incorect there in the rong place also you have a mk 3 sighting system on it not a mark 2 I beg to differ. I have four post war Fazakerley manufactured No4's in my collection. All have inscribed/electropencil serial numbers and bolt numbers. Two of them came direct from military storage in original factory wrappings and in original cosmolene. They are 100 % genuine as is, in my opinion, the rifle offered by this seller. FWIW : I have never seen a stamped serial number on a post 1946 Fazakerley rifle. All are scribed on, rather crudely I might add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loach369 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 To settle this little matter please see topic at gunboards.com, which I started http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php...ld-No4-question If anyone feels like apologising please feel free to do so. If not an expert do not pass expert opinion. Jim Hi Jim In my experience Walter Mitty 'Armourer' types and BS merchants who scream 'Fake' due to a basic lack of knowledge on the subject are rarely man enough to apologise. But we shall see ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulABF Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Your link appears to be broken mate. Well said by the way and to the tools who were waffling - poke it you skiplickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Your link appears to be broken mate. Well said by the way and to the tools who were waffling - poke it you skiplickers. Skiplickers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock308 Posted February 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Your link appears to be broken mate. Well said by the way and to the tools who were waffling - poke it you skiplickers. this is the link http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php...ld-No4-question cheers guys Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
night owl Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 ok before i say any more will you please post 2 pitchers for me please one of the bottom of the mag . And a pitcher of the ser no just under the muzzle cheers and ill show you a pitcher of my collection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
night owl Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I beg to differ. I have four post war Fazakerley manufactured No4's in my collection. All have inscribed/electropencil serial numbers and bolt numbers. Two of them came direct from military storage in original factory wrappings and in original cosmolene. They are 100 % genuine as is, in my opinion, the rifle offered by this seller. FWIW : I have never seen a stamped serial number on a post 1946 Fazakerley rifle. All are scribed on, rather crudely I might add. the one you had from military storage did you get it about 7 years ago via france ?? was it one of the 16 found in france ? 2 came here 1 went to the mentz collection would be intresting to know if you had one as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock308 Posted February 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 ok before i say any more will you please post 2 pitchers for me please one of the bottom of the mag . And a pitcher of the ser no just under the muzzle cheers and ill show you a pitcher of my collection Hi Night Owl Sorry no more pictures, see below link for more info I hope for your sake english is not your first language regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
night owl Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 very good mate but you really need to listen to the words of the song and no english is not my first language but we do speak it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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