Lizard165 Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 Got my 1st permission on a farm only 500m from where I live, not a big sprawling farm but it has trees, hedgerows and the canal runs alongside, but it is my 1st permission whoo hoo! When I had my initial wander (wasn't expecting too much) took note of the where the pigeons were plonking themselves, also plenty of rabbits spread around. Then I stumbled upon 4 pairs of ducks on a little stream, this drew the comment from the farmer that he gets flocks of Canada geese coming onto the canal and his fields in the winter (some of which will not be re-patriated come the appropriate season). I was well impressed with my little oasis of wildlife it was beyond all my expectations. I invited PW members and mentors unclestuffy & Daveo26 over to have a wander and get their thoughts, we arranged to go out last night and for them to show me the delights of lamping. We came across 4 deer, half a dozen basil brushes and plenty of rabbits they also agreed that it was a cracking little farm. Prior to my getting this permission I had spoken to several farmers but with no joy and was starting to get a bit down hearted, Luckily I have been taken out a few times by unclestuffy & Daveo26 onto 1 of their permissions, there they showed me some fieldcraft how to set myself up etc. This showing me the ropes gave me a bit more confidence when speaking to farmers when seeking permission. With this new confidence I approached the local farmer who ran his farm as a livery yard. I had always thought asking him would be a waste of time thinking the people paying him to look after their horse would not appreciate me being on the land. When I spoke to him I mentioned that I could use a moderated 410 to keep as discreet as possible, also turned up with a nice aerial photo of the area allowing us to identify his land. I also showed him my permission form explaining my insurance cover and absolving him of any liability (thanks unclestuffy). He was most impressed by the aerial photo and permission form, also the option of me using a moderated gun (which he had never seen before). The moderated gun and permission form were the deal clinchers and he was more than happy to sign up and give me permission. He also added that I would be ok using un-moderated 12g away from the animals, which opened up my options even more. This has taught me how important it is to not just turn up and offer to shoot vermin/pests, you have got to demonstrate a bit of proffessionalism regarding the equipment that you can use for different situations and also your knowledge of the surronding land. This gives people confidence in you, I feel that initially I was lacking this in my approaches to landowners. To anyone still seeking their 1st permission I would say don't give up a change of tack may produce results, if your lucky enough to get the chance to go out with someone to learn the the ropes even better the knowledge will be a great for giving you confidence when speaking to landowners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclestuffy Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 Mr Lizard, Sorry not had chance to give you a phone yet. The farm is a fantastic layout and seemed to go on for ever. Not the best night to lamp on but it was a chance to recce how all the land goes together. Waiting for a good night to go out and the land will yield some good results. There were too many foxes about too and it was not the same one running around as was suggested last night. Take some fox cartridges next time we go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard165 Posted April 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 unclestuffy Thought I would pop up a note on my success with finding a permission and how I had approached the farmer, also the invaluble experiance gained from being shown the ropes by yourself and Daveo26. Without my change of approach and talking with the extra confidence about what I was proposing I'm not sure that I would have been so lucky with getting farm. Only problem is once I start typing I end up writing a full novel!! Will speak soon, and will let you know if I hear owt back about the second farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossie1968 Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 Well done, be safe and remember the farmer come xmas time, a nice wee bottle of his tipple should keep him happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 The results of last night and the previous weeks roost shoot are in the oven in the form of a pie as we speak. YUM YUM. Nice seeing you again old bean, A bit more wind and a little less moon and we would have had a better night. T'is a belting bit of land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 Congratulations, it's always good to hear success stories. Some parts of the country are much easier to gain shooting permission in than others, but when you do manage it makes it all the more worthwhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 nice thread well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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