soreshoulder Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 hi there, My friend has the above gun but ever since i bought his .410 he has pestered me for it back, so i said would you swap for your 20 bore (his first gun) to which he declined and then said he would swap for his winchester and some money. My gramp is 72 and uses a dog of a miroku and after all the guns hes bought me and all of the shoots hes taken me on i'd like to give something back. Trouble is my friend uses it as a trap gun and it has a raised comb, it is a lovely gun though, its a grade 5 but the walnut stock is beautiful and it is in excellent condition, it is very loose but look in allround good nick and comes with 5 teague chokes. My question is, would this be a good buy if i could take it to nigel teague and have him lower the comb to suit his fit? cheers, also is there anything particularly bad about this gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Excellent gun, parts hard to find but a good gunsmith will make the part. Rarely go wrong. All old Winchesters feel loose but are usually very tight, its one of the many good things we original Winchester lovers like about them. A nice one can fetch well over a thousand pounds still. A trip to our Nige might well be a good idea though. Give him a call first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluke2 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 hi there, My friend has the above gun but ever since i bought his .410 he has pestered me for it back, so i said would you swap for your 20 bore (his first gun) to which he declined and then said he would swap for his winchester and some money. My gramp is 72 and uses a dog of a miroku and after all the guns hes bought me and all of the shoots hes taken me on i'd like to give something back. Trouble is my friend uses it as a trap gun and it has a raised comb, it is a lovely gun though, its a grade 5 but the walnut stock is beautiful and it is in excellent condition, it is very loose but look in allround good nick and comes with 5 teague chokes. My question is, would this be a good buy if i could take it to nigel teague and have him lower the comb to suit his fit? cheers, also is there anything particularly bad about this gun? I have the winchester 101 diamond grade trap wouldnt part with it and apart from servicing its never had a problem,the winchesters were loose on opening very smooth but mine was from new,open the gun and make sure theres no side play barrels to action if not its ok but it can be tightened, I wouldnt cut the stock as Ive seen loads of used ones for sale over the years might be worth a look on the bay, I saw a stock with a forend a few months ago sell for 45 quid so they are about, and probably cheaper than a reduction would cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soreshoulder Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 cheers im shooting with nigel on the weekend ill consult him but i would like it, its just can i justify it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Just got my Grand European back today, it's been to Roy Martin for complete overhaul and refurb, it looks fantastic. These guns have near iconic status and are very collectable, my mate has four, and i hear a guy in the south west has over twenty. They were Winchesters top grade with best wood and engraving, they stopped making them in the seventies, each one came in it's own red leather motor case, i have one for mine. Mine is also Teague choked which increases the value. Mine with case has been valued at £2000 for insurance. A rough one with no case is worth about £700. They came in three specifications, Trap, Skeet and Game, but many of the trap guns have been sporterised, mine included. In the USA it was called the Grand American and came in many different types including 20gauge and even double rifles Sadly Winchester have no records, as the brand was sold to Browning and all the records were lost or destroyed, so it is impossible to date any guns. So get your Grand European, enjoy it and be proud of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluke2 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 cheers im shooting with nigel on the weekend ill consult him but i would like it, its just can i justify it :look: Methinks poor gramps may lose out here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soreshoulder Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Methinks poor gramps may lose out here i asked him before i posted that and he was adamant that his old miroku was fine and he didnt need any more guns, but the thought of a nice o/u with a lovely walnut stock has been tugging in the back of my mind :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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