longgun Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Hi, According to American cartridge reloading carts, most of the American powders(red-dot, green-dot, titewad,...) usable by reloaders in a highly wide range(7/8 - 1 1/8 oz). On the contrary, European powder reloading tables so narrow. For example AS24(7/8 oz only), AS(7/8-1 oz), D20(1 1/8 only), 206 series etc. I found plenty of red-dot recipes but for Nobel powders, in narrow range. Especially D20, AS, 206V and so. I have 1 kg D20. Couldn't I reload for 24 grams shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Hi, According to American cartridge reloading carts, most of the American powders(red-dot, green-dot, titewad,...) usable by reloaders in a highly wide range(7/8 - 1 1/8 oz). On the contrary, European powder reloading tables so narrow. For example AS24(7/8 oz only), AS(7/8-1 oz), D20(1 1/8 only), 206 series etc. I found plenty of red-dot recipes but for Nobel powders, in narrow range. Especially D20, AS, 206V and so. I have 1 kg D20. Couldn't I reload for 24 grams shot? Careful: Is it D20, D20.28 or D20 SE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgun Posted February 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thank you Floating Chamber. Hard to explain but learned. It is D20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thank you Floating Chamber. Hard to explain but learned. It is D20 What is the colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgun Posted February 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Green but rather light, like turquoise green and disk shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vti-chris Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Any news on this subject??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Hi, According to American cartridge reloading carts, most of the American powders(red-dot, green-dot, titewad,...) usable by reloaders in a highly wide range(7/8 - 1 1/8 oz). On the contrary, European powder reloading tables so narrow. For example AS24(7/8 oz only), AS(7/8-1 oz), D20(1 1/8 only), 206 series etc. I found plenty of red-dot recipes but for Nobel powders, in narrow range. Especially D20, AS, 206V and so. I have 1 kg D20. Couldn't I reload for 24 grams shot? i think the point you are missing, is this. america has a bigger more competative market. they try and publish as many valid recipes as possable, also private enterprises pulish data that is very different or abuses the powder, such as extreme powdercharges in still safe applications. did you know, that titewad has an even broader range than any normal powder, it can propel 5/8oz steel and lead charges, 21 lead, 24g, 28g, 30g, 32g lead to 1200fps, and 32g subsonics. that is one hell of an operating range. this is due to its really high nitro content, and its density. it is one of the fastest powders available. but slower than ultralite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgun Posted November 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Any news on this subject??? I'm reloading 1,15x24 gram shells. Cycling my semi auto and killing birds. That's all. I think the speed is about 1000 fps(~300 m/s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 The fact is that American powders have been developped to be used from alaska to texas, therefore, are more stable and less sensitive to climate changes. The investment put in research from companies such as IMR, Hogdon are reflected on the price. Also, it appears that the quality of components is slightly superior. I'm Italian, and been loading italian and european powders for many years and found that every powder works well within determined parameter, outwith wich the load is not totally effective. American powders are not so sensitive. For instance, powders such as F2, REX (all B&P) are now identified by a x28, x32 to identify the braket within wich they work better. I use to have loads of GM3 for dry/cold weather, S4 for humid/wet weather and many more for different quarry/ weathers. Is to be noted thoght that powder such as Tecna (Nobel) or M92S (B&P) which are double base powders of higher quality (hence more expensive) are less affected by the climate change and can use a wider array of loads (34g-45g or more), though they might vary from batch to batch and is always advisable to proof each load loaded with a new powder. As an example: Tecna N 2009 was slower that Tecna N 2010, 2011-12 seems to have returned to normal burning parameter. Hope this helps Franco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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