demonwolf444 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 The Graphs just chairgun 4 if anyone is interested. Its great when your really bored you can plug in whatever figures you like and experiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpieman Posted May 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 talking of long range rifles i think it would be sick if accuracy international came up with a target / sporter hybrid air rifle, one can only hope =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoogey Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) late in but some other info, regaurding the 17 yard zero, it's often better to pick a more 'alround' zero and use the hold over method at the lesser ranges, the reason being if/when you get a larger shoot your already fluent in that zero so to speek.(the more time in with one set up the better you usualy are using it as its all a matter of time in). but..nothing rong in zero'ing for the shorter ranges, after all every one is different.. Edited May 10, 2013 by stoogey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpieman Posted May 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 ideally i would have a larger bit of space to play with but for the most part i shoot diagonally in the garden hence the 17 yards i mentioned. im working on getting space / a range to shoot on and in that situation i would zero at about 30 / 35 yards with markers every 5 yards up to and past that point ideally out to 50 yards just for fun, im currently looking at various ao mildot scopes, hopefully getting one will coincide with finding a bigger space to shoot in, thanx for the tips bud =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) Im blessed with a very long garden. About 100 yards or more. I used to be able to shoot the full 100 yards ( at stacks of tin cans for plinking fun ) but we have built a house on it so now i have a range which is from 15 - 30 yards which is my zero - i have some hanging shotgun cartridges, one inch spinners, and two target holders which are home made, i can put stuff at the end of the veg patch which takes me to 40 yards usually empty shotgun cartridges. At the base of a yew tree further on is 50 yards. then 65 yards against the garage wall of the new build. At 65 yards on a still day i can hit shotgun cartridges using chairgun to work out holdover and my .177, but the slightest wind - 5 - 10mph can result in a miss by a few inches. Favorite scope by far would be Nikko Sterling mountmaster 3-9x50 AO mil dot for 36 quid with mounts, worth every penny. Ideally i would buy 3 more of them, but its just money isnt it, and i cant justify it while my current non mil dot 30-30 scopes are still holding zero. PS someone built an XS78 into an accuracy int. stock - cant find a link right now :( Edited May 10, 2013 by demonwolf444 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpieman Posted May 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 =) sounds like you've got a cool spot to play in. oh and i think ive been looking at that nikko scope but just to make sure could you send me a link plz, as for the accuracy international / air rifle idea, i know that accuracy international collaborated with some british olympic champion to develop the stock and the rifles ballance and overall geometry. that kind of savy wrapped around an air arms pcp action would blend the best of british engineering, ohh if only i had millions of pounds to make such things happen lol im sure a rifle like that would sell like hot cakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 The one on the right is a refitted accuracy int stock i believe, but it wasn't the one i was looking for ( ie the same style as the one in the pic you posted. ) http://www.network54.com/Forum/113813/thread/1313258225/My+B50+%26amp%3B+Modified+QB78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpieman Posted May 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) haha a pretty good effort there eh, the accuracy int stocks come in 2 halves kinda like an airfix with an ali chasis, the 2 halves are just screwed together lol. i guess there injection moulded out of some funky kind of tough plastic. built in adjustable butt plate and cheek pad, sling attachments, with attachments for rear mono pod and bipod, whats there not to like ? right who's got access to injection moulds then lol Edited May 10, 2013 by magpieman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoogey Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 heres a thought on acaliber..22 actualy has a slight edge on 'consistancey' down range..but other thing like the amount of scope room to plot the drop on sort of make it equal in use to .177. next is, .22 penatrates further on soft tissue like gel tests etc, and nearly ****** all up to a pellet depth on say wood, but the 177 goes almost through an inch or more at point blank. .177 has the reputasiion of over penatrting, yet the .22 penatrates further?..hmmm on bird the feathers can be like an armour sheild to a .22, but a 177 usualy comes out the other side.. both calls drop things when hit in their 'respective target area's'.. both have eather faster velosity or a heavier weight..but added together in the under 12fp range they both hav fairly equol amounts of pow on arrival. i find on a bunny bonse, the 22 loudly wacks it and does the club it affect where as a 177 goes clean on through or at least stops at te other side of the skull to much farther away. at 30 yard max shooting, well...for ratting a heavey or medium weight .22 will get jumped by rats.. verses a miid weight to a lower heavy 177 pellet rarely gets avoided by rats..infact so rare that at below 15 yard ish i've never seen it lol about 600fps pellets are visable, so... a heavey 10.3 grain 177 starts to get dodged about 40-45 yards ish.. 22's a lot sooner. horse's for courses isnt it lol. which do you like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpieman Posted May 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 its been a long time since i shot at anything living and when i was hunting a lot it was with 177, i wasnt thinking very technical about things back then, my rifle was chosen and zeroed in by my dad and i used it as it was. my tx200 is in 22 n im using rws superdome, i never get any fliers with them. now understanding a little bit more on the technical side of things i think i'd try a 177 on my next rifle, the idea of a flatter faster trajectory is really enticing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpieman Posted May 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 these guys look up to the job of doing some cool custom stocks going back to the accuracy int idea =) http://www.staffs-synthetic-stocks.co.uk/guns.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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