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Ruger old Army .44 or .45?


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I have a slot on my certificate for a black powder revolver. Because I was keeping an eye out for a Ruger Old Army, I put down .45 as the calibre on the variation. Looking around though, some are listed as .45 and some.44 ??? They all left the Ruger factory with same sized hole in the end, they just seem to be listed differently depending on who's selling. I have found one for sale privately, but typically it's on his certificate as a .44 :oops:

 

How accommodating do you think the Gloucestershire FD are likely to be, in letting me enter this on my FAC without going through the nausea of another variation? I know the answer is to call and ask them, which I will, but just wanted to see if anyone had been in a similar position and what the outcome was?

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You are correct that they all have the same sized hole down the barrel but they were marked differently by the factory. They were originally marked '.44' and then Ruger changed to marking them '.45' at some point (at least I think it was that way round) but they are otherwise identical as far as I'm aware. I have no idea why they did this. They all seem to like .457 balls.

 

It's ridiculous from an FAC point of view when you think about it. If you want to acquire one marked .44 then you need your FAC to authorise you to acquire a .44 calibre gun. However, they are not .44's even though they are marked such! They are .45's. So, technically, if you acquire one marked .44 on a .44 slot you are acquiring something you have not been authorised to acquire because you are acquiring a .45.

 

J.

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I think that you'll find that it's the other way round.

 

The originals were '.45' and very shortly after start of production they started calling them a '.44'. As mentioned, they are all bored for.457" ball.

 

To really confuse things, Ruger don't mark them with the calibre! Instead, look for the UK or other CIP proof marks, usually to be found under the hinged loading lever. It will usually say .44". Mine is quite early, a blued (with brass frame) .44" dated 1975.

 

So, as stated, unless it's a really early one - a friend of mine has a .45 and a .44 - you'll be looking of a variation for a .44 m/l.

 

Do check which it is before you buy, some police forces are not as understanding as others ...

 

Oh, they usually shoot very well.

 

Andy

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Cheers guys, I'll give the licensing dept a ring and ask. I suspect the answer will be to put in a variation. Chances are, knowing how long Gloucs take it will be gone by the time it gets sorted, and the next one I find will be a .45!!

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Cheers guys, I'll give the licensing dept a ring and ask. I suspect the answer will be to put in a variation. Chances are, knowing how long Gloucs take it will be gone by the time it gets sorted, and the next one I find will be a .45!!

 

Ask them to put something like ".44 or .45 M/L pistol" or perhaps "M/L pistol not to exceed .46 cal"

 

J.

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