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Sorry motty i think you may have misunderstood what i was saying what a said was it seem like they hit harder not they do hit harder and then merely stated that if george did indeed load #5,5 shot in the carts it could be something to do with it and i wasn't criticising the ballistic performance of the clear pigeon as i have shot with them for must be over 20 years when they were clear hulls.

I know others do shoot pigeons with light loads but i do believe larger shot and heavier loads kill better (more humane) providing you put the shot on the target that's why i prefer to shoot nothing less than 32gm #6 on pigeons to me it make sense

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