michufc Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Hi to all as I say I have started again with my springer and how do I get him to stop pulling on when quartering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Is he ball obsessed if so drop ball at your feet as you give turn whistle that's what I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michufc Posted September 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Hi mate yes I tried the ball trick when you said about the stop whistle and it really has sharpened that up. So would I blow the turn and then throw the ball so he sees it or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 That's good news mate, glad it helped. I sharpened up the stop with the ball tonight whilst dogging in. 👍 I cast her off pip a turn and when she looks chuck a ball in the air six foot or so, so it lands about four foot in front of me. After a few goes you randomely chuck ball or not chuck ball so the dog "gambles" that there is a ball there. I believe that if your training without correction then a ball is a very powerful tool. 👍 I am no expert of course but its worked for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michufc Posted September 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Yes I have started to help dogging in so as you know lots of birds and scent so I think that might be why he is getting so head strong 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Yes I have started to help dogging in so as you know lots of birds and scent so I think that might be why he is getting so head strong 😂 Your not on your own mate, my one is now experienced after two seasons at two shoots and two seasons dogging in. She has started to line foot scent and is pulling out on that. I am keeping a close eye on her and using turn whistle and rewarding the turn with hunting her into cover but turn whistle her out straight away in case she pulls through to the other side. The problem with dogging in is that reared young birds don't want to fly they prefer to jog on which seems to pull the dog along. If we see birds in the open I turn whistle her away to break away from it as I do to flushes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Dogging in couple of days ago. This is the result of much ball dropping 😁 its the best I have..👍 https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=aa8SFqqnf_w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Michufc Is he following foot scent when he pulls out. Were I am (in the vid) the fields are full of visible little paths that the birds have made going walk about. These foot scents are what is pulling my one out but a turn whistle before she gets to "hooked" on the scent does the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michufc Posted September 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 No not really he just picks up a scent and then pulls on and thinks it's ok to go that little bit further each time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 You need a reliable turn whistle, work with the ball 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michufc Posted September 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Ok I am going out with a mate and his dog first thing so I will let you know how it goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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