sweepy Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Right all I am in need of some help and advice.So here goes The farm where I shoot wants me to take a more active role in shooting the foxes as the owner is not completely happy with me shooting them with a .22rf.So what is the best calibre and scope and night sight combination to go for with in a reasonable price. Have been given loads of different advice from going from a 222.50 to somebody advising on a 30.06 all help would be great The best bit is the farm owner is willing to pay towards the cost of the set up of the outfit Sweepy :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john faul Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 a good fox rifle would be ,223 caliber or mabe a 17hmr would do your job as for a scope try to get a secondhand schmidt bender there good at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 a 30-06 would do the job very well but is much to powerful, most people on here would say 22 hornet and up is fine for fox but most people use a 222, 223, 22/250 and 243 using v-max heads but the 243 will only be nessisary if the area is windy or you have to shoot deer as well. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Two things that'll help people help you. What's your budget, roughly? What range do you expect to be shooting foxes at regularly? Best scopes you'll get will be Swarovski, S&B, Nightforce. The Archer nightvision unit seems to be good, I think Grasshopper has one and he's doing the business. As for rifle, I am going for Remington this time. Another thing I use is the Callmaster digital caller, I find it works very well especially the rabbit squeal. Forgot to mention calibre. Two most popular on here and other sites will be .223REM and .22-250. Both excellent calibres with their own strengths and weakness. You'll also get recomendations for .222 and .243. .17REM and Hornet will also do the job but I'd favour the other 4 first, thats just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john faul Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 i have recently baught the ucaller the crow calls are good and the rabbit call is supposed to be very good havent tried it out on the foxes yet if you have a tight budget a cz rifle is a good choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepy Posted August 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Two things that'll help people help you. What's your budget, roughly? What range do you expect to be shooting foxes at regularly? Best scopes you'll get will be Swarovski, S&B, Nightforce. The Archer nightvision unit seems to be good, I think Grasshopper has one and he's doing the business. As for rifle, I am going for Remington this time. Another thing I use is the Callmaster digital caller, I find it works very well especially the rabbit squeal. Forgot to mention calibre. Two most popular on here and other sites will be .223REM and .22-250. Both excellent calibres with their own strengths and weakness. You'll also get recomendations for .222 and .243. .17REM and Hornet will also do the job but I'd favour the other 4 first, thats just me. Hi John My budget will be roughly £600-£700 in total for everything(as long as missus don't find out) average shot distance between 150-250 yards farm has a valley running thorough it so sometimes can be windy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john faul Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 you will have to be kookin at one of the centerfire calibers at ranges greater than 150 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 That seems tight for all the kit you're looking for. Lads over your side of the Irish sea will be better able to advise you on price than me. I doubt you'll get more than a rifle and scope for that though. Won't be a top four scope, unless you come across a great second hand deal. I think the NV gear is out. At the range mentioned 22-250 will have a bit of an edge over .223. Ouch, hurted to say that lol... As for wind I'm not sure how the two compare. I'll go check ballistics... According to here the .22-250 will have the edge in the wind. Anything over 200 yards at night is a long way for me at night, I'd try to get closer. But I take my own terrain into account, the fox blends into the mountain grasses very well, not many cut fields etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john faul Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 cz is definately your best choice of rifle their cheap and relatively good from what i hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 I forgot to mention the .220 Swift, but over here that's an expensive calibre to shoot at two Euro a pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazza Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 You may be better to look for a s/h rifle and scope for that money. I shoot a Remmy 22-250 and find it very good, however alot of people on here use the 223 and have equal success. The 22-250 is very loud when unmoderated. Frank swore by his CZ, so that may be worth a look. Try a few shots at 100 yards, if your zeros good, move it out a further 50 yards and try another few shots. Once you've done this out to 250 yards, you will have a good idea what your limit is. JohnG was spot on about the range, over 200 yards is a long way at night. Try to either get closer to the fox, or get the fox closer to you. If you miss one on the lamp, they become a real pain in the backside! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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