Browning Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Gents, Anyone have any ideas on the worth of blank firing pistols for gundog training ? My GSP is OK with .410 and now 12g, but it's not always practical to take a shotgun when we do our daily training. I saw them in use during the gundog demonstrations at Shugborough on Saturday and it got me thinking. Are there any laws/rules/regulations relating to their use ? Any advice much appreciated. Cheers, Browning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tody27 Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 And please may I add- Do you need a special certificate for a blank firing pistol? (one of the old types) cheers tody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Pieman Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Some pistols will reqiuire a FAC. I have a feeling that some can be used without a licence but the place you look to buy one from should be able to tell you - or your local Firearms Licencing Officer . Some of our gundog specialists should have a clearer picture . If no joy, try giving BASC or a similar organisation a call. Cheers :thumbs: PP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff B Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Try Quest Gundog Training Equipment 01744 882549 or http://www.rainfordwa11.freeserve.co.uk/ They sell perfectly legal starting pistols and the blanks, no license needed. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palombier Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 Hi Browning You do not require a certificate for a starting pistol unless you are starting races at an athletics meeeting where they use larger weapons . As for the training I use one to train my dogs. The .22 long cartridge gives quite a crack slightly different to a shotgun so bear that in mind because it can spook some dogs. The .22 short is a bit louder than a cap gun. I've never had a problem with either. Once I've got them accustomed to gunfire I tend not to bother with either if I'm training. It's a handy little item and worth getting hold of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowstopper Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 They are a good thing to have, you can buy them for as little as £12 but if you want a good 1 they go up to around £35 for a good one, but you can pay more but it is not worth it as you might drop it in a field, I am quite sure that you do not need to have any licence for a starting pistol or a dummy launcher. As I see it they are a very good thing to have. also i have seen at some game fairs blanks for 12g that could be a good thing to use. crowstopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff B Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 You can buy .22 long blank adaptors to fit a 12b shotgun from Turner Richards, if you do use these make sure you clean the barrels thoroughly afterwards as the black powder is very corosive and will pit the barrels on no time. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ears Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Try www.turnerrichards.co.uk or tel 0121 3595577 £25.00. I own a Webly and Scott sports starting pistol, is does two calibers .22 and .32 center fire. The .32 are bloody loud. Cant tell you what it cost as it was my fathers before i got it and ive had it 25 years. If you have a local clay pigeon club near you, chuck the dog in the motor and pull up about 500 yards or so away and open the window of the motor. When the dog is settled with it drive up a little closer, may take a couple of weeks or so, dont hurry it. This way you can be with the dog and calm it if need be. If you use a gun/ pistol etc its better there are two people the first couple of times round as one can fire the gun 100 or more yards away and the trainer can stay with the dog again to calm it. As the dog settles bring the gun closer. You probubly know all this anyway but have a look at the web site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene molloy Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 No need for a starting pistol, use a dummy launcher with no projectile. Eug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowstopper Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Sometimes when working with a young dog and its first time a dummy launcher with 22 long blanks or bigger can be a bit to loud. crowstopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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