maluk Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Ive just got a BSA lightning .22 with a Simmons 3-9x40 scope and I'm having problems setting it up. I'm getting all my shots in an area the size of a cigarette packet from 35 yards but I'm 6in high and 6in to the right of centre. The adjustments are full on down and left. I'm sure it's not me because if I use another rifle I have no problems at all. I've got a couple of people to shoot with the BSA and they are also having the same problem. Any suggestions? Knackered scope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Does sound like a faulty scope. I have had this problem befor and it is not worth trying to fix as it will never hold its zero, get it replaced. What model of simmons is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maluk Posted May 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 It's the 8 Point - 3-9 x 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 If it was me i would do the following. Center the scope again (ie, count the number of clicks on the windage and elevation turrets, if they have say 200 clicks set them both to 100 (mid way) are your rings mounted properly on the gun? try swapping the front and back ring also try turning the rings around (only try one at a time and then retest the grouping) have you overtightened the rings on the scope and damaged it perhaps? are the pellets clipping the silencer? to do this lot you will need a large safe backstop behind the target just incase. If it is grouping but just not in the right place i would be looking at the above setup first before i condemed the scope. you may have to shim the mounts with film negitave or such like if all else fails but only as a last resort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 this scope is an entry level scope so does lack the quality of a better model, I used to buy cheap scopes and encountered similar problems to what you are having. At the end of the day with scopes expecially you get what you pay for. I now have a simmons whitetail classic 3.5x10 50 super night view and it has never let me down. Zeroed it once and never had to change it (except when changing pellet brand). My advice to you is if you are serious about shooting and want accurate results dont buy a scope below about £150. Some people wil disagree but this is based on personal experiance, I have been shooting since i was strong enough to hold a gun, and i am 23 now! Sorry I cant give you any good news but dont be put off, once you get the right kit you are set for life. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maluk Posted May 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Mickey : I agree with what you say about getting what you pay for but surley the basic functionality should work correctly regardless of price! I havn't overtighened the rings, I actually read the instructions first (very unusual for me). I have tried turning the mounts round which made a slight difference. I'll try swapping the front for the back and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 yes i agree, the basic function should still work, have you considered parallax, basically what i mean is are you addressing the rifle the same way every time, if you look through the scope a different way each time your cross hairs will be in a different position on the target. look through the scope and move your head around, do you see the cross hairs move? This is a major factor in cheaper scopes which is elliminated to some degree in more expensive scopes. This would accout for you group sise being like a cigarette box. Try what neil said about setting the turrets to try to move the group to the correct position. hope this helps a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 also just to add, what pellets are you using? if you are using MARKSMAN!! then throw them away and use a good quality pellet as bad pellets just will not group! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maluk Posted May 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 I'm using BSA Elite, any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Hi, To me this problem says that something is not straight. It can either be the action or your scope rings alignment or both. Are the mounts mounted correctly ? Have you lap your rings with a lap bar or have you done anything else to make sure you have ring alignment ? This is VERY IMPORTANT thing then you mount a scope on any gun ! It could also be a faulty scope, but I don´t think it is. If you can´t figure it out yourself then you need to see a real airgun smith ! Cheers - Bolta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maluk Posted May 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Thanks for all the advice. I am now able to centre the scope after changing the mounts round although it's still pretty close to the adjustment limit, 2 clicks left on both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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