high velocity .22lr

[Evilv]

Steve, I regularly shoot rabbits at 100 yards with a .22 (Eley or Winchester subs), and it drops each one. I do have a .17 HMR, but that cannot be used near livestock, hence the need to reach out with a moderated .22.

 

I agree with you on that. The .22LR subsonic is a deadly accurate little round and will kill at 80 yards IF YOU CAN JUDGE THE DROP. I use mine zeroed at 50 yards and it is pretty well aim dead on from 35 to 60 yards. I know its shooting a little high at 35 and a little low at 60, but put the cross in the middle of a rabbits neck or head and it is in the bag either way and without any drama.

 

I bought the CCI stinger as an experiment, and once I had zeroed it at about 70 paces it seemed a very convincing killer out to 80 - 90 and beyond. Nothing I pointed it at got up to argue even at well past 80.

 

My feeling is though that so far it isn't as accurate and I ha a couple of fliers on paper that could have been me, but I don't think they were. I have 61 rounds left, so I'll go out this evening and try them some more before I decide on the round. It is VERY loud though, but strangely, the rabbits I shot on Friday afternoon didn't seem at ball bothered by that. I did have the moderator on, but they were still loud as hell. With the eley subs the only sound worth mentioning is the 'TWOCK' of the rabbit having its brains rearranged.

 

I'd really appreciate hearing people's experience with the CCI stinger and CZ 452 (I can't actually remember the model number but its the European stocked long barrel cheap cz Its a lovely little shooter though, best .22 I ever had.Easy to get cloverleaf groups at 55 yards with eley subs.

Edited June 15, 2008 by Evilv

[Evil Elvis]

Ive been using remington subs in .22 in my cz style and recently have shot rabbits out to 99 yards and plenty at 80-90...all measured with my yardage pro (im trying to build up a mental catalogue of distances). I hit one at 85 yards on monday night and its eyes were popped out on stalks.....i was amzed at the energy left in these little rounds at that range, the rabbit didnt even twitch.

My mate recently shot a hare at 99 yards, measured, he simply laid down and rested on the ground, he said he shot at the head....and he hit it in the head....droppped like a stone!!!

 

i dont think theres any need to use supersonics at all!! All you achieve is scaring the rabbits for the next mile!!! imo.

[Evilv]

They still have most of their energy left at that distance EvilElvis. I ran a simulation on Point Blank and an Eley sub which started at the muzzle with 104 foot pounds still has 72 foot pounds at a hundred yards. The Stinger which started at 191 foot pounds has lost a huge amount and is down to 93 ft pds at a hundred yards. The difference isn't all that much by then, but to be honest, if you can get them to shoot out of your rifle with good accuracy, it will be a fair bit easier to judge the drop at that distance, given that it is only 2.25 inches for the stinger or 7.5 for the eley sub.

 

I suspect though that the fact that the bullet has gone through the transonic stage by 100 metres and may well be wobbly by then could make it a lot less accurate than the slow old eley.

[THEINVISIBLESCARECROW]

For a test I bought 100 of each.

CCi MiniMags, Stingers, Velocitors. Winny Lazers, Eley HV's, RWS HV's, Remmington Cyclones, Yellow Jackets.

Normally I use Eley subs.

For a test I went to the local range yesterday & fired some MiniMag solids just to see the POI compared to the subs so I could gauge a rough POI & test the HP's for grouping.

Didn't get very far as after about 20 rounds the grouping went terrible, I had 50 solids just to blat away before the test so I assumed bad box or just me being lax.

Then I noticed the scope mounts had moved alot, recoil giveing them a bashing & tight for subs was not tight enough for HV's.

I managed to retighten but by then dinner time was getting closer so I decided to test next week.

If anyone is going to try HV's make sure the mount rail srews are tight !!!

[Evilv]

For a test I bought 100 of each.

CCi MiniMags, Stingers, Velocitors. Winny Lazers, Eley HV's, RWS HV's, Remmington Cyclones, Yellow Jackets.

Normally I use Eley subs.

For a test I went to the local range yesterday & fired some MiniMag solids just to see the POI compared to the subs so I could gauge a rough POI & test the HP's for grouping.

Didn't get very far as after about 20 rounds the grouping went terrible, I had 50 solids just to blat away before the test so I assumed bad box or just me being lax.

Then I noticed the scope mounts had moved alot, recoil giveing them a bashing & tight for subs was not tight enough for HV's.

I managed to retighten but by then dinner time was getting closer so I decided to test next week.

If anyone is going to try HV's make sure the mount rail srews are tight !!!

 

I'd be very interested in your findings when you get the chance.

 

I went out last night and shot another eleven rabbits. The flat nature of the stinger's trajectory makes it easy at longer ranges than the accurate but curvy subsonic eley round. The stinger also makes big holes in the rabbits well out to like 80 yards. These two boyos went down without a twitch at about 80 yards. Looking at the damage, I am not at all surprised. These are exit holes.

 

Edited June 16, 2008 by Evilv