RC45 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Hi, I have a plot of land in the sticks, there is no public access and I was wondering if I would be able to shoot clays there. Cheers Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 This should help. Read Clayman's post. http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...890&hl=area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Also some pertinent info in here.... http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...showtopic=56903 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 hanks Peter, Post copied here again: ================================== You will need an absolute minimum of 5 acres just to contain the clay fallout, and really need 10-15 acres of you want complete control over the shot fallout plus be able to use a reasonable variety of target angles. One of the questions will be your planning status. If the area on which you want to stand to shoot is agricultural, and its clays not game you are shooting, this is not itself an agricultural use and you are limited to the deemed planning under the General Development Order 1964. This says agricultural land may be used for other purposes 28 days in the year - this is the reason many Hay Bale shoots operate every second week. If your combined use for non-agricultural usage adds up to more than 28 days in an annual period, you need separate planning. If the land is NOT agricultural - you don't have ANY default planning for clay shooting. You might try arguing its personal recreational to shoot on your domestic land, but the planning officer will just refer the matter to the Environmental Health Office, and they will drop the noise brick on you. The noise limitation is controlled by general nuisance laws, but EHO guidelines are that you need to be under 60dB fast A weighted at the nearest places of public access or habitation. In real terms this means you need at least 1/2 mile in front of shooting, and 1/4 mile behind unless you use low noise cartridges or put in sound barriers, ie strawbale hides etc. Topography and bunding can help control noise. Shot fall out rights are needed over 250m in the arc of fire for a std 28g no 8 clay load. ( 275m if you use 7s or heavier shot). Still wind send no 8 clay shot just short of 200m, but with wind it can drift up to another 40m or so. To control the safety zone you need to either own the land, or have the written consent to both fall out there AND exclude other users. Don't forget to get insured before you shoot, for you and guests. Don't forget to understand the section 11(5) and section 11(6) exemptions to licensing so you dont fall foul of the law if the shooters are not all SGC holders. As noted by Cranfield, its illegal to discharge a fire-arm within 50 ft of the center of a public highway in such a way as to cause alarm or distress. Designed to stop you shying horses and alarming doggy walkers etc. The CPSA Safety booklet downloadable for free from their website covers all this in detail. www.cpsa.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Many Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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