proofing

[sapper063]

had my cz cut to 16 ins to match my second one, picked it up from gunsmiths only to be told that i could not sell it without it been proofed well i phoned proofing house in birmingham to my suprise it will cost £32 plus vat thought it would be a lot more. the guy told me the more you send in cheaper it is but there is a min charge of £32 so my cz will be on its way tommorow.

[vmobiler1]

What the number/ address for them?

[sapper063]

What the number/ address for them?

hi

 

The Birmingham Gun Barrel Proof House, Banbury Street, Birmingham B5 5RH, England, Tel. 0121 643 3860, Fax 0121 643 7872

[Graham M]

You don't need to have it proofed unless it has been threaded.

 

G.M.

[vmobiler1]

Cheers sapper063.

 

you ex RE?

[sapper063]

yep and proud of it

[sapper063]

You don't need to have it proofed unless it has been threaded.

 

G.M.

yes thats ok but you still cant sell it

[MC]

Unless things have changed, yes you can sell it. I use to cut down shotgun barrels to rechoke them for a job and none of them were ever reproofed.

 

They went straight out to customers after the work was carried out.

 

If your rifle has been cut down and rethreaded then you have cut into the barrel walls and you will have to have it reproofed as technically it is now out of proof and it shouldn't be used.

[sapper063]

thanks for that wished gunsmith had told me before he cut it and threaded it

[Graham M]

yes thats ok but you still cant sell it

 

Yes you can!!!!!!!!!

You only need to have it proofed if you have “Weakened†the barrel by having it threaded. If you have only had it shortened then this does NOT count as being weakened and you will NOT have to have it re-proofed.

This is well demonstrated by the fact that some people have had their barrels threaded without proof, and then when they have come to sell it they have simply cut off and re-crowned the barrel so that it can then be sold without being re-proofed.

 

The British Proof Authority wish to clarify the proof status of small arms converted to accept muzzle attachments and the proof requirements of the attachment.

 

The following advice applies to cartridge operated small arms of all calibres, not including air weapons and their accessories.

 

The Trade and the public are advised that the barrels of small arms fitted with sound moderators, screw in choke tubes, muzzle brakes, etc. require to be proof tested. In addition any barrel of any small arm previously proved but subsequently converted by a manufacturing process, resulting in a reduction in substance or strength, to accept the fitting of sound moderators, screw in choke tubes, muzzle brakes, etc., will require the arms to be reproved. This advice also applies to any alteration to the internal dimensions of the barrel affecting bore size or chamber lengths in excess of permitted tolerances.

 

Muzzle attachments through which any part of the charge would be exploded or discharged form part of the barrel and also require to be proof tested and marked accordingly.

 

 

G.M.

[Graham M]

thanks for that wished gunsmith had told me before he cut it and threaded it

As you HAVE had it threaded then yes you will need to have it re-proofed before you can legally sell it. But in all honesty are you now going to sell just because you have had it threaded???

Keep it without re-proof and then have it done if and when, because you are NOT breaking the law in any way if you are using it without re-proof; the law is only broken if you sell it.

It does surprise me that your RFD did this work without insisting on a re-proof as this is now the norm amongst most gunsmiths although, there are good gunsmiths that will do it as long as you are aware of the laws of proofing.

For him to do the work and then tell you seems a bit strange, and I would let him know your feelings on this, because it would have been a lot cheaper for him to take it in with a batch of rifles rather that letting you do it alone with just one gun.

Perhaps you could arrange for him to take it for you when he takes in his next batch of rifles. Or failing that hint that you are going to enquire about this to the Gun Traders Association……..He may just offer to do it for you., (depending on whether he is a member that is)

G.M.