Sqwelchy Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) Hi all. Can anyone please tell me the muzzle velocity of a BSA Tactical XL please. I need to know because im in the middle of getting a new permission and the owner has to know for risk assisment reasons. He beleives that its 6ft/Lbs anymore then it classed as a firearm. But arnt all air rifles classed as this? Any help would be great thanks Edited June 12, 2009 by Sqwelchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RemmySPS Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) Air rifles are legal up to 12ft lbs and only when they exceed this do they become a firearm. The velocity depends on which calibre you want as the .22 will shoot at @ 625fps whilst the .177 will shoot at @ 850fps. Although there is a huge variation in the velocities of both calibres, they are both still only going to be just under 12ft lbs with the differences simply down to the size of the pellet and therefore the energy that they transmit to the target. Edited June 12, 2009 by RemmySPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Hi all. Can anyone please tell me the muzzle velocity of a BSA Tactical XL please. I need to know because im in the middle of getting a new permission and the owner has to know for risk assisment reasons. He beleives that its 6ft/Lbs anymore then it classed as a firearm. But arnt all air rifles classed as this? Any help would be great thanks Air rifles are classed as air weapons inless they exceed 12ft/lb. AIR PISTOLS are classed as firearms when they surpass 6ft/lbs - this is proberbly where he was getting confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqwelchy Posted June 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Air rifles are classed as air weapons inless they exceed 12ft/lb. AIR PISTOLS are classed as firearms when they surpass 6ft/lbs - this is proberbly where he was getting confused. Nice one cheers mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve'o Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Air rifles are legal up to 12ft lbs and only when they exceed this do they become a firearm.The velocity depends on which calibre you want as the .22 will shoot at @ 625fps whilst the .177 will shoot at @ 850fps. Although there is a huge variation in the velocities of both calibres, they are both still only going to be just under 12ft lbs with the differences simply down to the size of the pellet and therefore the energy that they transmit to the target. Will using a std pellet say .22 AA Field 15.9 grn pellet at 625fps = 13.79ft lbs .177 AA Field 8.4 grn pellet at 850fps = 13.47ft lbs So is velocity dependent on not calibre but the pellet weight so it will not stray to FAC Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RemmySPS Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Will using a std pellet say .22 AA Field 15.9 grn pellet at 625fps = 13.79ft lbs .177 AA Field 8.4 grn pellet at 850fps = 13.47ft lbs So is velocity dependent on not calibre but the pellet weight so it will not stray to FAC Cheers Steve Simple really when you think about it….. If you are shooting 14grn .22 pellets and your rifle is attaining 11.9ftbs at the muzzle, then if you put a 15.9grn pellet in the rifle………it won’t do 625fps will it; it will be slower. Therefore it will still only shoot under the legal limit. The same applies to a .177 pellet in 7grns. Put the 8.4 pellet into the gun and the pellet won’t achieve the same velocity as the 7grn pellet and therefore won’t exceed the 12ft lb limit. Yes you can go over the limit by using a different brand of pellet, and we all remember the old Prometheus pellet that pushed the rifle well over the top. But in general the extra weight of the pellet usually means a slower MV which in turn means a similar ME or even lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve'o Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Simple really when you think about it…..If you are shooting 14grn .22 pellets and your rifle is attaining 11.9ftbs at the muzzle, then if you put a 15.9grn pellet in the rifle………it won’t do 625fps will it; it will be slower. Therefore it will still only shoot under the legal limit. The same applies to a .177 pellet in 7grns. Put the 8.4 pellet into the gun and the pellet won’t achieve the same velocity as the 7grn pellet and therefore won’t exceed the 12ft lb limit. Yes you can go over the limit by using a different brand of pellet, and we all remember the old Prometheus pellet that pushed the rifle well over the top. But in general the extra weight of the pellet usually means a slower MV which in turn means a similar ME or even lower. Very true but was talking a std pellet, in my TX200HC .22 I used Webley Mosquito Express 14.3 at 600 fps 11.4 ft lbs until I tried .22 Webley Venom Extreme 15.3 which came out at 610fps 12.56ft lbs Had to remove a thrust washer to take it down. So until you Chrono its just guess work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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