Foxgun Tom

These are for sale £40 buyer collects....

Sold!!! thank's Denbo. nice to meet you again.....

i think the cost of P&P would be horrendous? there's a lot of gear.....

I have a full kit of Pigeon Decoying equipment for sale, numerous full bodied, and half-shell decoy's, flapper's neck-props for dead, birds, spring sticks, and a couple of Chris Greens decoy's which attach to extendable 15 foot poles which are included. There's also a net decoy carry bag, 4 new extendable hide poles in bag, canavas bag with bucket for seat and a 12 foot X 5 foot realtree 3D camoflage net included. ill health force's sale I'm looking for at least £120 (negotiable) for the lot! it's a bargain for some-one starting out I'll even throw in a couple of pigeon decoying book's for free here's some photo's eg:

Let me kick off in response Webber your a diehard BASC man thats obvious from your posts on the pigeon watch forum re: the matter and your gloating about the situation on here and you could'nt wait to tell the lads and lassies on the Hunting Life! You could'nt even give me the courtesy of giving friends on there the news myself your a **** stirrer and your right! you neither know me or Ian Clark I have resigned and with a bit of luck that may change over the next few days and common sense will prevail , and changes and compromise will take place As for "SACS" its still the best membership/insurance deal. My beef is with Ian Clark and his style of management, others might and do agree with it? its not about the organisation I rather still people joined it!! than your mob BASC or the Countryside Alliance, The one personal trait I'm proud of is I'm honest and not afraid of the courage of my convictions, If Ian Clark deserves a ragging from me at the time? he deserves it, just as I would, if I make a balls of something. You are a **** stirrer and only trying to get some milage for BASC as for pinning Ians post here thats my forums copyright and I suggest you do something quickly about the matter!!! as for the whole issue its on the sacs forum for all to see Tom

Despite my leaving the organisation still has a great deal of merit, and its membership fees and insurance are still the best deal by far. As for Whinchester, he was not a SACS member at the time his guns were taken and wev'e been over those old coals allready, Tom

DustyFox say's " think its a very caring organisation to help somebody that wasnt a member to pay out of there own pocket instead of insurance. Yet BASC has probably got millions in the bank and cant help out a 15 yr old lad, while other smaller organisations did help out. What SACs donated to the "ZANDER APPEAL" was its Officers and members own time and personal commitment, not any of SACs funds. Members of this organisation and one other (SCA) made the effort The lad benefitted from members of other forums and most significatlly the many retailers and traders at gamefairs I personally took the kid too! The whole exercise took up a lot of my own time over a full year I don't need a pat on the back. My reward and other members was this youngster instead of feeling sorry for himself and maybe going back on the streets to a negative way of life, deceided with a good support structure of people he never met to carry on shooting, get the relative certificates, found full-time employment and is now a well adjusted member of society, All this without the support or help of "The Voice of Shooting" (BASC) Tom

You are now just taking the ****!! where do you get the new labour **** from and wasting members money?? There is absolutely no debate about joinining SACs you either do or don't?? I and a large majority of my fellow countrymen booted new labour out of power in Scotland :look: did south of the border do the same?? SACs does not favour one polital party over the other it as to take into consideration all political views!! its irrelevant who its individual members support politically and its for their conscience alone If you think a tory administration will ever get a ruling majority in Scotland your living in cloud cuckoo land, and labour are has much frowned upon as the Tories, the Liberals also have virtullay no chance either Obviously you have'nt a clue about Scots/Scotland or its political/social, situation or even its history Whats annoying a certain group of people is giving a better deal to everyone in the UK involved in rural pursuits and not just the guns,I spend a great deal of my time travelling the UK especially England! promoting SACs, I love the country of England its people and its different landscapes I also appriciate the many common bonds we share and will continue too have in the future. Why should'nt we be able to share the benefits I enjoy with others domiciled in these British Isles?? Tom

The issue of helping a young lad had nothing to do with wether he was a member or not!! all it had to with was!! a national organisation advertising itself "As the voice of shooting" showing it had a human side and a degree of compassion by supporting a shooting mad youngster in his recovery! If the lad thought he was being supported by an organisation, in his darkest hours he may well have joined along with many of his associates, at the end of the day Basc were embarrassed into helping the lad because it put them in a bad light with the shooting community, they eventually gave him minimal clay coaching lessons at a gamefair, because he lost is master eye, The superficial cost of that !! I've probably dropped and lost running for a bus!! Tom Ps: BASC were the only organisation that refused to help! SACs launched an appeal and auction for the lad despite him not being a member The Scottish Countrysid Alliance also helped!! It did a terrific amount of good for the lads confidence and recovery knowing that shooting members of both these organisations were giving him moral and tangible support, it meant he had no time to feel sorry for himself and made him more determined to carry on with rural pursuits, especially shooting If SACs and the SCA could do this why could'nt BASC?? Pps The guy who shot Zander was insured and the boy got a payment but what financial renumeration do you think is equal to a 15 year old boy losing an eye??? As for myself, two brush'es with the law in 42 years, been shooting since the age of 9 :look: I'm now 51 and still no criminal record is quite good in my opinion Tom

Pinkfooty says "can you really imagine an agency in England or Wales paying any attention to SACS??" Can you then give me a good reason why a Nationalist Government in Scotland should pay heed to two devolved organisations run from south of the border?? (BASC and the Countryside Alliance) At least we appear to be doing what our brothers in rural sports in the south want and ask for While as a BASC member I was asked to attend police headquarters in Glasgow re: my Shotgun Certifcate a senior Basc official also attended at my request! While the interview was being carried out and I answered all the relevant questions put to me, the BASC official sat in the corner rolling cigarettes, not once did he interject or ask the police why or did they have any concerns!! I absolved myself at the interview and everything ended amicably I paid a membership to BASC and a highly paid official supposedly looking after my interests was only concerned about his next nicotine fix!! he did nothing to facilitate my continued shooting career, I was lucky in the fact I knew how to conduct myself and had a knowledge of Firearms legislation, It was then I decided my membership money was better spent elsewhere, A few years later a similar situation arose and I asked SACs to attend,! Ian Clark met me at the police station with him was Mr Tom Cruickshank, SACs lawyer and an expert in firearms legislation who was attending on behalf of another SACs member Mr Cruickshank allayed any fears I had, Ian came into the interview room, constantly gave advice and was able to inform me and the officer involved what current legislation, allowed me to carry on shooting, He also made it very clear to all involved that as a SACs member any adverse decision taken against me would be challenged in the courts!! As many of you know I now work as a volounteer for the organisation now!! simply, because you get back what you put in and everyone gets the same service!! Another reason why I left BASC!! was they're callous refusal to offer any practical help to a 15 year old schoolboy at the time of a dreadful shooting accident. A number of websites allowed the Zander appeal Alexander Kerr) to be posted in their forums and forum members donated cash and the offer of day's out, some Lurcher enthusiasts even offered Zander a pup, Country magazines, advertised the appeal in their letter pages so that more people, were aware of what was going on, The National Coursing Club's Di Brodie sent free passes to the Waterloo Cup. Because Zander, is involved in promoting Lurcher and Terrier work as a member of the Scottish Working Dog Association a large number of UK Lurcher and Terrier men supported the appeal from the outset. What also makes Basc's attitude so appalling is that they're supposed to be the voice of shooting and encouraging the next generation of young shooters to take up the sport, what is also ironic is that Zander despite is injuries and new disability has applied for his shotgun certificate and the largest single donation to the appeal came from, "The England Olympic Skeet Team", the true voice of shooting! In my humble opinion BASC are a shower of heartless uncaring B@stards, Who will never see another penny or any future support from me and the vast majority of my friends, who will not be re-newing their memberships over this issue Letter sent to BASC Dear Sir's On new years day 2004 a young friend of mine Alexander Kerr (Zander) aged 15 was injured by a ricochet from a shotgun !!! This unfortunate incident happened while he and experienced Gun's were out taking part in legitimate pest control!!!!!!! Zander was rushed to hospital where he underwent a number of operation's to remove pellet's. Unfortunately, another operation is required and Zander is set to lose the sight in his right eye!!. I intend to be present at the" Waterloo Cup" and have asked the youngster to join me. Is there any way that the National Coursing Club can make his visit special And can I ask BASC and the SCA ,as well as SAC's, If there is any thing they could do to help aid the boy's recovery ??, This young man has shown tremendous courage and when I visited him today, his only concern was for the the chap who fired the shot, and how "he was worried at what he was going through". It was a very humbling experience, to see a young lad going through so much and yet his first thought is for others. I hope you all might be able to help this youngster while he goes through a difficult time personally Regards Tom Chalmers ________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________----- BASC's reply To Letter Tom, Thanks for this - not a very happy New Year for all concerned. Unfortunately I do not know whether any of the parties involved were members of BASC or whether insurance claims will be made against our insurance policy. Nor do I know whether there is any police action being taken. Due to these considerations it would not be appropriate, at this stage, for BASC to offer any more than our best wishes for a speedy recovery. All the best, Colin