Celticranger

Thanks mate, its definitely the gun, bottle dosn't lose any pressure. I'll try Chanbers.

Couple of 2 door Rangies on Ebay at the moment. Cheers,

When I fill my air bottle and attach to my Logun, within 3-4 days all the air has leaked, even though it was left uncocked. Anyone know which seal needs to be replaced, how to replace, and where to buy the seals. Thanks

End of story then

I notice you asked," am I as good as I say". First of all never said I was good, but this morning I was called to a golf course who use my services, Went round in the vehicle with the green keeper to a fairway where a problem had arisen. AS we approached I stopped the vehicle, theres a rabbit down there says I, only the ears could be seen, the guy couldn't see it. I poked old browning out, loaded and zip, up in the air goes bugs, Jesus says Phil, I couldn't even bloody see it. Do us a favour I asked pace it out for me, 94 steps, a little breezy this morning, but knowing the area like I do I have to say a doddle. So my answer to you is this, using the words of Rocky Marciano, if I tell you i'm good, you will say i'm a big head, if I tell you i'm not good, I know i'm telling you a ly. Hows that my friend. Oh and you didn't tell me your thoughts on a .17 Cheers

I was looking at this site together with a friend last night, and he asked me a number of questions, so I will put my answers on the site. When I shoot with my Logun S16, 40 yards is my max range. I have no experience of a 80 FT LLBS air rifle, so can't comment on the accuracy, suffice to say, to be accurate conditions need to be spot on, ie no wind, dry day etc. Otherwise the pellet will be blown off course. When I shoot I have the gun, ammo, and half a binocular which is tied to my jacket for spotting. I know the areas I shoot like the back of my hand, so rangefinding gadgets, etc are a waste of time for me. I look through my 4x40 Kasnar scope, which is never played with, and from the view of the rabbits head, I say to myself aim dead on behind the eye, or up a bit. Using my rimfire and 39grain RWS, 100 yards is a doddle from a standing position. The farthest shot has been 139 paced out by the Farmer I shoot for, again a head shot. Using my friends .17 close on 200 yards is no problem. I am not going to argue with anyone who uses an FAC Air rifle, but my view is 100 yards is extreme, I wouldn't be happy taking shots at that range "to many variables eg wind, holdover etc" And don't forget, may be 80 ft llb at the muzzle, 100yards is a long way away. I set a test for some friends of mine who are spot on at 50 yards target shooting a little while ago. I set some rabbit targets up unknown to them. I then had them walk up hill, told them they each had ten seconds to shoot the rabbit, both missed at 50 yards!!!! Its easy laying down on a nice day to be accurate, you also need breath control. So ask yourself the question lads, be honest, are you as good as you claim.

Well said mate

I appreciate the points you raised. In the areas I shoot, there are places where the 12ft llb ammo is ok to use, other areas I can use anything, so I only have to carry the rimmy. I only ever go for head shots, the meat is unsellable with bruising around the body. I see you have a .17, how did you find this. I used my friends and found it very accurate, rabbits head shot at close on 200 yards, but the noise I could never put up with. I also found it did richochet, which apparently does not happen [so its claimed] Cheers

Interesting observation my friend. But I find that a lot of enthusiasts want FAC Air rifle, but in fact are not competent enough to use the extra range. I have used the 12ftllbs rimmys, and they are not that accurate after20-25yards, but are usefull for my type of shooting. The cci 29ftllbs are ok at 50 yards, again usefull. My main ammo is Eley subs, or Rws subs, very very accurate in my browning. In this area, if they are willing to grant an FAC Air rifle, there is no problem gettting a rimmy. And its a lot less expensive to buy a rimmy than an Air Rifle, and if you only have an FAC Air rifle and a farmer wants rats or pigeons cleared out of a barn, problem, because he won't want holes punched through the barn, so back to 12ftllbs. My rimmy plus my 12ftllb air rifle have sufficed for many years. The secret is to practise every day. At one stage I was using my rifles near enough 7 days a week for 17 years. I have many friends who are weekend shooters, and to be honest there is only one who I would judge competent at 40 yards. Anyway its interesting to see the comments on this sight, makes good reading. Thanks for the reply

Hi there. I have been shooting rifles for almost 60 years. I have used all sorts of Air Rifles and found 22ft llb an ideal power. Over that and it gets inaccurate. .17 is a waste of space, to noisy for Rabbits, one bang and everyone down the hole. .22 I found is better. But, and this is the point, if you cannot hit the target area 9/10 with an on the 12llbs limit air rifle, forget about higher power. I use a rimfire Browning, over 30 years old which is an extension of my arm and is deadly. You can get ammo from 12ftllbs 29ftllbs and more, deadly quiet, accurate, so why go to the trouble of FAC Air Rifle. Hope this helps.

Very proficient in 1956, even more proficient now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

Obviously Landrover is Concorde!!!

Thanks mate, I'm going to strip it slowly taking pics as I go in case I mess up, and use your guide as well. Hopefully I can sort it Cheers

Thanks mate its celticranger41@live.co.uk

How many seals in it, and where can I get a manual to show all the seals, and how to get at them. Got a tuning dvd but dosn't show all the seals. Thanks for the reply. Oh is S16 Carbine model