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  1. BUDGET SUB 12FTLBS .25 AIR RIFLE OPTIONS.

    in Airgunners

    Posted · Edited by B B

    1 hour ago, enfieldspares said:

    This is meant in good spirit! Everyone will tell you that unless you are shooting at a KNOWN distance, and that that distance is under twenty-five yards that a .25" isn't the way to go in sub 12 ft/lbs. Within those limitations of range it'll hit and kill like Thor's hammer. But it'll have even so a loopy trajectory (so that's why you'll need to judge your distances almost exactly) and over twenty five yards the hold over will be horrible! There's a reason that sub 12 ft/lbs rifles aren't widely available. That's why!

    My advice would be if you want "heavy" is get a PCP .22" and use a heavy pellet such as a 14 grain "pill" in a quality brand. I do all my PCP shooting with a .177" BSA Scorpion T-10 regulated by Rat Works using Bisley Magnum 10 grain "pills". It gives penetration but with weight. If you are going down the "springer" route you need light pellets. A "springer" in .25" sub 12 ft/lbs is handicapping yourself. And unless a modern quality make won't group well enough at that twenty-five yards.

    Thank you for the Reply.

    I Should have explained why i want a 12ft lbs .25 air rife and a cheap one around £100 too.

      I have several air rifles and pistols, in both .177 and .22, i dont have a PCP at the momnt and only ever owned one around 8 years ago a webley raider in .22 a old single shot.  I have never owned a .25, had a sheridan silvver streak in .20 plenty of .177s and .22s, but never a .25. 

    I have shotgun and FAC but no desire for a fac air gun, i have a.22LR  brno/cz 452 which i use but i rarely use that i load 50 grain cast bullets at 2000fps in my .22250 tikka for much of my rabbiting etc.

    I Like the .2506 Cal i have one in Tikka as well, And have for years contemplated a .25 air rifle but never had the need and simply never came across one to even tempt me.

     Now WHY i want one in sub 12ft l bs now. I have a webley vulcan in .177 a feinwerkbau 127 sport .22 and a BSA model D in.22 was my grandfathers  an smk x17 in.22 and two air  pistols A 177 Predom a Walther clone, and a er ts crossman 2240 in .22.

    So plenty to go at in air rifles , but i am currently leaving the smk x17 in a shipping container right next to where i have a lot of rats . I am quite enjoying ratting, and the old smk x17 with its 6lb trigger and its 8/9ftlbs power level on a good day. But i now want a cheap 12ftlbs air gun and because i dont need esspecialy long ranges your 25m would be my max range and more realistic 15 to 20m typical. Now oppotunity knocks and t think the .25 will do what i need and a cheap hatsan etc will mean i dont care if it gets a bit of rust etc, not that i want it to rust mind.

      If you guys can recomend a budget make and model in.25 and where and how i might go about buying one, then i will get a .25. If not ill just buy a Hatsan 900 or similar in .177.

     

  5. Any point in buying a new gun

    in General Shooting Matters

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Fellside said:

     

    Perhaps a little ‘glass half empty’ BB.

    Worst case scenario is that we’ll all be using steel in 5 or so years - not too drastic. Chin up…🙂

    And as for steel.? I have been shooting it (Reloads) for most of my shooting for 20years or more and have zero concerns about using it for everything. Its more than capable  .

  6. Any point in buying a new gun

    in General Shooting Matters

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Fellside said:

    So you honestly think there’s no point in any of us buying a new gun then….?

    Perhaps a little ‘glass half empty’ BB.

    Worst case scenario is that we’ll all be using steel in 5 or so years - not too drastic. Chin up…🙂

    My post that you quoted commenced .. I personally. YOMV. 

     

  7. Choke

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    On 18/05/2022 at 09:28, Joe180 said:

    Hi guys is there  a gunsmith in my area that can bore my top barrel from 3/4 to 1/2 (20bore) I’m Doncaster s.yorks. Thanks.

    Try the gun room holme on spalding moor.

    Unit 2
    New Inn Corner
    Market Weighton Road
    York
    East Yorkshire
    YO43 4EE

    01430 861065

    Me i would leave it well alone and as for steel... fine through a full choke certainly if  any factory bough ammo.  nothing sold here in the uk makes limits you need to be concerned at all about in that or any other gun for that matter.

  8. Any point in buying a new gun

    in General Shooting Matters

    Posted

    I personaly would leave the money in the bank or at least look elsewhere to spend it. After a lifetime of spending more money than i care to remember on shotguns and rifles i am now much more conservative in my approach to the guns i own or aspire to own.

    The Laws are changing and not for the better imo,  i can not see any curtailing of the steady hemorrhaging of rights and tightening of this and that aspect of gun ownership and what it requires and just what hoops need negotiation to retain the right to own such things.

    I can not see me ever buying another gun as long as i live i wont be stopping any of my shooting activities, but will be using what i got and spending the residual cash on the shooting itself and not yet more equipment to do it with.  

    I have sold anything i felt was excessive or i did not utilize very often and of course only when that gun was actually going to raise worthwhile cash.

     

     

  9. Your help appreciated, Rat gun setup!

    in Airgunners

    Posted

    Security.  as outlined above already. 

    RATs and air rifle Up to 25 yards and sticking within  the criteria of the OP.

    there are many spring powered air rifles that will do the job it all depends what is available in his area or he might have a wait for an order.

     Guns. Londns best quoted the Hatsan and if you can get one a model 125 (Striker IIRC) would do the job and its what i would try to get in spring power and give,n the budget .

     Another readily available option that is sub half the budget and is not only capable but possibly if he so wishes a project long term with a host of information and mods/ parts available , is the crossman ratcatcher. This the 2250 is the rifle layout of the ubiquitous 2240 range of CO2 powered Crossmans.  recoiless and accurate and the addition of a moderator which is well within the budget will be a clear improvement on noise reduction (something which is not so clearly defined in the noisier springers)  Not quite up to the 12ftlbs legal limit in purchased but will do the task outlined and has the potential for further improvements and all inside the budget.

    Crossmans and co2 in general have a few considerations you need to take into account however. and obviously the CO2c cartridges themselves need purchasing and the price though minimal needs adding to the equation and perhaps not so obvious the practical number of  shots that retain consistent FPS  per cartridge need monitoring. And further to this the fact CO2 is not at its best in low temps ( But its never bothered me because i dont work/ sit around waiting for rats at low temps either). And yet more bad news CO2 can and will eventualy erode the seal if CO2 carts left long term in the gun so remove a cartridge if storing it long tern say a week or more . This will help preserve the seals integrity. The seals are available and a simple enough job but its another consideration that needs to be taken into account. 

    Still on CO2 there are way more CO2 options out there than the crossman 2240 ish range, SMK rabbit stopper and victor or victory mp2 the list goes on and some may work great but in my view i would stick with crossman they are a known quantity and cheap well made in the stock form for the price and modified easily with lots of dedicated well documented mods that can make improvements if appropriate.

    Cal & pellets.  .177/ .22/ .25 . Any all got pros and cons and all will do the job . But .25s seem hard to find  on the shelf for me anyway . YOMV.

    Pellets for rats i use an old Webley  vulcan .177 and a SMK X17 i was given in.22 and i use RWS hobby in them both.

    If i was buying new and at that price point i would buy a hatsan  model 125 in .25. if you can find one. I have no experience with .25 but if i had the money or the desire to spend it on an air rifle for rats that's where i would spend my money.

     

     

     

     

     

  10. Bank accounts.

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    Posted

    Thanks for the Help everyone, he seems happy with the the Monzo account and the app based banking he seems pleased with .  he did a youtub e search and found  vids on setting up the account, and a review by a bloke goes under the title Andy clever cash, He did a review on monzo and others on varrious banks. I think he is clear now what he needs to do. Thank you very much as ever  god old PW gets an answer to a problem. thank You.

  11. Bank accounts.

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    Posted

    My lad is 18 and going into full time education at Newcastle UNi latter this year. he has started putting his financing into place, he will get a bursary but he has no bank account in his own name.

      He has no passport and not even a provisional driving license, mostly down to him not having any money for car or bike and the long winded DVLA they dut down to covid 19. he actually applied for a driving license, but after many months waiting they refunded him after they took four weeks to open his letter and claimed "His application was too late".

      We need to move quickly if we go for a passport due to the timescale, Or is there an alternative by which way he can open a bank account of his own without the license or passport. 

    If any of you can offer advice on this please, i would be very grateful.

  12. Pneumonia & Shingles Vaccination

    in Off Topic

    Posted

    Heard of it but never really knew what shingles ARE, but just looked it up and all i can say is get the JAb. I am going to enquire in the morning see what criteria i must meet to qualify for shingles jab.

    1 minute ago, chrisjpainter said:

    Yes and no. There are two types are available. The single dose vaccine is live but weakened. The double dose vaccine is non live. The live one  could give you chicken pox but it happens with one in 10,000 individuals...If you're really concerned, chat to the doc and ask for the double jab Shingrix, not the single jab Zostavax.

    Thanks for that insight.

  16. Three Events That You Will Remember For The Rest Of Your Life .

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    Posted

    As a Small Lad 5 yr, I was In the Yard Playing with the Dog. A Green van "ford 100E"came in the yard at speed. An old man got out, "is your Dad around" With that my dad appeared, and he told Me to go into my Mum.

    Th old chap was the bearer of sad news, My cousin !2 years older than me Had been Killed On That Shining triumph 500 . I remember that like it was yesterday.

      Years Latter we had moved To Lincolnshire, And Near Epworth it was a Saturday Afternoon i was in the back garden and i heard a Huge bang and  my mom and dad came out looked around, would see nothing over the fields from where we were. but latter On the News the Nipro Plant at flixbourgh  Had blown up smashing windows miles away and causing death and distrction in the immediate area.

     Third thing is Probably the 911 attack it was the same year my Daughter was born, and i can remember i was home that day tv was on and it came on Tv About 200Pm 230Pm IIRC.

  17. Testing of sub 12 ft/lb Air weapons by Police.

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    Posted

    Late to this party but i Know of one chap who used to beat on a game shoot i was part of in lincolnshire. This chap Was 100% from south yorkshire police area Barnsley area if i remember right..

     Story was he was he was up for renewal he had a air rifle not sure of make or type, but on inspection / interview policeman noticed this air gun. FAO got it tested unsure of exact details if he took it there and then or came back latter no idea, but bottom line was this lad lost his FAC and shotgun certificates this airgun was just over 12ftlbs, lad had no idea. but he broke the law so his licence went for over two years.

    That force was 100% south yorkshire this happened mid nineties early 2000s from memory.

  19. yes but no but.

    in Motoring Section

    Posted

    CV carbs on motorbikes !  I have just re emerged from two weeks of pure hell, trying to tune My nephews XS650 Mikuni CV carbs to run on individual filters.

      This will be the case on Most probably all  bikes with CV carbs but Yamaha XS2 650 1974 M reg. Straight off if your bike still has its original air box and filter set up my advice is DONT TOUCH IT.  Ok its ugly black and needs hiding but Cv carbs need the air boxes chamber and volume flow to let them function acceptably.

      the bike in question was a pile of parts he bought in a drunken ebay whim back in the winter, He did an ok job of assembling the bike he had a frame stove enamelled and resprayed the tank himself and it looked good Norton style pea shooter exhausts and it bursts into life and ticks over great, but try to ride it and it had big issues.

      He brought it to me with the carbs off and in a cardboard box.

     I set too stripped and cleaned them put them back on and it was no better i changed the pilot jets from 132s main 42 pilots to 135 mains and 45 pilots, ran better but still holding back.

      Seriously difficult to set up on the original filters he had, they were effectively blocking the carb breathers in the mouth of the carbs mikuni BS  38s. 

      Tried some more filters bought off EBAY uk these were better no restriction on the rubbers, and , after trying a couple more jet options i ended up at 135 main and 45 pilots and 2 1/2 screws out and a small shim washer under each needle. Only way i could get it running acceptably.

     If by me posting this i deter any wannabe tuners from chopping up the black airbox then thats is a good thing. I can only describe the faffing around with these carbs as frustrating verging on annoying , Believe me DONT DO IT run it stock on the air filter side cv carbs are a real pain to get running on individual filters.

     

     

  20. Recommend a good semi auto?

    in Guns & Equipment

    Posted

    Hatsan in left hand new would be a gun fits your criteria.

    Hatsans are reliable work great unbeatable for the money new.

     Used shotgun the world is your oyster most semis will be fine last a lifetime, Browning beretta benelli Winchester the better known brands are good used buys.

     Right handed vs left hand shooter.  i shoot left hand been using semi autos over 45 years, in that time had one left hand gun a 1187. it was fine, but so were all the right handed ones too. I heard about the gas blow back firts time around 1988 i heard it from a left handed 1100 shooter at a clay ground, he warned me, and 30 years latter thoudands of rounds i never had a singe issue ever.  Even with 10ga semi autos all right hand again never had a problem ever , Just saying.

  21. We’re back in business !

    in General Licence Discussion

    Posted

    1 hour ago, islandgun said:

    My post by the Songbird Survival org proved him wrong and was written by respected conservationists .. Found out in a lie. he now needs to be pushed by as many as possible..... [what else is he lying about ?]

    Lies and half truths eddied to fit in with his chain of thought are what makes these people sound plausible.  The hapless individuals who helped fund their exploits, must by now be aware that they were just funding an anti gun group with no interest in conservation. 

  24. Licences for pest species

    in General Licence Discussion

    Posted

    15 hours ago, pigeon controller said:

    Can you shoot the parakeets in cages?????

    Only those in pyramids and only when the Pharaohs are out shopping.

    11 minutes ago, greylag said:

    BASC could not have done more to make life easier for us.All the information on the new licences are on their web site.Some people are still refering to the old NE licence and not the ones issued by DEFRA.

     

    Yes BASC have it all there in one place .

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