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1 hour ago, JR111 said:
Nice looking gun.
I have nicer guns than the Purdey I am looking at, however the new barrels was the big seller for me. Still making up my mind. Barrels were probably a year old when they were opened up, so I'm not concerned about the barrel condition. The original chokes from Purdey were 1/4 and 1/2, however with this opened up it has tightened them. I was hoping this would be for when I needed to shoot standard steel. I have several original barrels from 1900 and some have been lapped out and it is noticeable. These barrels are as good as I've seen. But the ejector issue has changed my mind. Thanks again for advice and opinions
Very glad I have joined this forum. Nice to be able to talk old guns to people. I was hoping to stop another gun heading across the pond!
Get some pictures posted on the side by side club, it’s been a bit dry of late!
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16 minutes ago, enfieldspares said:
It isn't worth £6000 IMHO because it is a short stocked gun that has been extended with this butt pad. It is also an early Purdey before the mechanism was "improved" later on. If the gun isn't exact to your needs in length of pull and the ejector timing isn't correct I would walk away. At the very least get a quote from Purdey regarding the ejector work (best and worst case costs) and use that as a lever to reduce the price if you do make an offer to buy.
The "best" gun market is in the doldrums and the 2023/24 Season ends in but four weeks. I'd wait until then and get a better gun with a stock that is all wood and all one piece at a much lower price. The new barrels mean little and IMHO a long stock "best" London sidelock gun with original barrels in proof and with adequate thickness is better than any "best" London sidelock gun with a rubber butt pad and ejectors out of time regardless of the barrel age.
Now if it were a boxlock "duck gun" or other with a 2 3/4" chamber by Bland or Midland or Greener with a rubber butt pad that'd say "function" and be in my opinion quite reasonable and even likely requested when the gun was purchased. No problem and a beneficial feature to some. But a red rubber butt on a "best" London lightweight game gun suggests...nay screams out...that the person that had such put on couldn't afford to do the job of having the thing fitted to them properly by having the gun fitted with a new stock and (from the same blank) matching forend.
Is it not a Silvers pad?
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No brainer, there ain't no pockets in shrouds! Get it bought!
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That is stunning
Have you got some close ups?
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21 hours ago, JohnfromUK said:
I don't really know anything about him, but the book - whilst enjoyable and in many ways excellent (well illustrated, comprehensive and with a wealth of data) is not easy to use as a reference resource. Unfortunately, very few books on guns are. I am fortunate to have a reasonable 'library' of shooting books, biased towards shotguns and gunmakers and mostly British, though I do have a few books on the Continental makers whose products I have (Beretta, Darne and Merkel).
Most of the 'serious' gun books are expensive as they are printed in small numbers, and unless they are reprinted, can become hard (and consequently expensive) to obtain.
It is a great book, as are the Donald Dallas ones, I also have a Winchester and Ruger one like the Beretta one and Santa just brought me the Woodward book today!
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Beautiful
You ever near Edinburgh?
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9 hours ago, team tractor said:
I was told I’m up to my limit last renewal. I’ve just had another for Mel b until his renewal is through 😂. Heard nothing yet. They all fit in the cabinets so as far as I’m concerned I’m ok.
💯 👍
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39 minutes ago, Fargo said:
They do I’m sure ?
Sure they do
From the pics this gun is a Citori grade 3.
If was a 325/ early GTS would be adjustable trigger if I’m correct.
Made generally for usa market. Good guns and won’t wear one out.
pretty sure you are mistaken
They were built on the Citori or similar and then finished in Belgiumhttps://www.shotgunworld.com/threads/b125-1985-superposed-superlight.387833/page-2
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15 minutes ago, London Best said:
I once reached eight shotguns and four S1 rifles.
On renewal Derbyshire FEO told me I was on the maximum limit and any more and a monitored alarm was required. I simply told him he was making it up. End of conversation.100% correct👍
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3 minutes ago, Old farrier said:
That would depend upon weather you live in a high crime area or not alongside a increased level of security and obvious cabinet capacity
home office guidelines don’t stipulate a number although some areas do put a number on it
At last somebody that knows!
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37 minutes ago, Fargo said:
Has it got a 3 piece forend ?
B125 don’t have a 3 piece forend
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Hope you dont mind me asking, is there any with grouse shooting reports? If so I would be interested and game fair and Christmas issues
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4 hours ago, bottletopbill said:
button I fully agree with you but as so many have said before me it does not pay to annoy them.
This is where BASC and other's need to challenge and defend there members and ask for one firearms policy for every police form to use.
Like I say each to there own but if something is imposed for no good reason and outwith HO guidelines, by going along with you are becoming part of the problem when really it should be challenged
If an officer stopped you for speeding and you knew full well you wasn’t, would you accept or challenge?
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12 hours ago, bottletopbill said:
Think we all do not want to rock the boat due to causing more grief .
So that is why we all moan on this site.
While I can appreciate your point of view and respect it, the more that comply with these requests the worse it will get
They are there to administer the rules/law and not make it up as they seem fit
This attitude of complying for fear of repercussions astounds me, it really does, been a certificate holder does not stop you standing up and defending your rights
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6 minutes ago, Fellside said:
Steaming the wood and refinishing is fairly straight forward. It would have to be for me to get results - as I’m certainly no gun smith. You have to give it plenty of heat, but make sure the cloth doesn’t get dry. A touch of wire wool and a good stock oil - that’s it.
No matter how straight forward something is I always manage to make a dogs dinner of it, hence why I pay professionals
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30 minutes ago, Shadowchaser said:
Indeed. It's one of those things isn't it? If I showed the gun to someone casually they probably wouldn't see the dent but when you know it's there it plays on your mind. If it was a second hand gun or if it was several years old I wouldn't be as bothered. A bit like getting a dent in a brand new car. It's always going to annoy you.
Like I say, I get you, I got anew car this year and it got dented after three days, most would not even have noticed it but I had to get it done because every time I went to the car I saw because I knew it was there, so I get it
get it repaired and you’ll be happy again👍
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1 hour ago, Topgun113 said:
As in the f3 barrels will fit ?
many thanksF3 are modular and can interchange any F3 barrels without any fitting, unfortunately F16 aren’t I’m afraid
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I bought some Sporting Air Rifle mags off eBay, get lost in the adverts, especially the ones you wanted as a kid but could never afford, making up for it now as I come across them!
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If they are 20 bore barrels bored out to be 28 would imagine the forend you had would fit but guessing you would need to be fitted by a smith, one other point they will be a lot heavier than the 20 having more metal left on em, my thoughts either get a true 28 or don’t bother, however realise each to there own, if you got it for a good price you might get a decent px price and get the one you really want
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If it was me, having spent that on a gun I would pay a professional to get it sorted, you have already said it niggles you and I get that, I am absolutely the same and until it was sorted I would never be happy, worse case, couple of hundred quid, imoh, to make you happy again, small price to pay
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2 hours ago, Scully said:
So one piece of erroneous information ( which I quickly corrected ) condemns my entire input regarding the suitability of nitro proofed guns and steel shot?
Thats a bit rich isn’t it, coming from someone whose posts often consist of a reluctance to accept logic and the actual findings and experience of others ( including a barrel maker no less! ) who are actually using the stuff!
If the information is readily available, then why don’t you post it, rather than more often than not posing cryptic questions that no one understands?
LB is a big boy and ‘dragged’ himself into YOUR argument; each and every time we seem to be getting somewhere dispersing some of the fears and myths surrounding steel shot along comes you and stirs it up again by posting some twaddle which has no relevance to the issue. And you accuse ME of digging!
FACT: You CAN safely fire steel shot in nitro proved guns.
FACT: You CAN have your nitro proofed gun proofed for HP steel.
FACT: As you say, the information is out there, but that obviously isn’t good enough for some.Wouldn’t waste your time, reminds of a high bird thread from the past, some just won’t accept anything that doesn’t fit their ideas
atb
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7 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:
No problem ......... although in fact now, AyA have much reduced their range - all the 'lower end' stuff has gone (Yeoman and No 3 and No 4 boxlocks) - I believe they only offer two boxlocks, the Best Quality Boxlock (£13,500 list price) and 4/53 (which now has an eye watering list price of almost £11,000).
Not sure how much the volume of sales has declined but with the cheapest boxlock at almost £11K and a No 2 at over £13K and a No 1 nudging at £27K (list prices inclusive of VAT) - I can't believe sales are huge. I do wonder if they are actually doing OK at those prices.
The guns themselves are were nicely made as priced originally ............ but my No 1 I would be disappointed in if I'd paid £27K (I paid around 12% of that second hand).
Bang on, and they will go the same way as very few could justify that kind of money on a boxlock, especially when you can get a very good used example for sub £800
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1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said:
Don't think that's so. Yes, the Purdeys and 'top of the range' names are still being made and (presumably) doing OK albeit many are owned by larger overseas gunmakers/luxury good groups, but the vast Birmingham (mainly) industry for everyday mass market guns has gone. Many of the 'English names' are made overseas now.
Like the motor industry, the 'top of the range' names like Rolls Royce, Bentley are still being made and (presumably) doing OK, but all the everyday mass market Austin, Morris, Rover, and many many others have gone.
But surely that’s a case of how they do business rather than issues with the product, because your costs increase, you can’t just keep raising the selling price but leaving the product essentially the same, hence the demise of W&S as an example who found it hard to compete against the likes of AYA
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I do wonder how many of the posters criticising the quality of new Browning, Beretta, CG etc have actually owned one? Or is it a case of “my mate told me”
My FIL bought a new BMW top of the range and has nothing but issues? Does that make all BMWs bad? I don’t think so I think he was just unlucky
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