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In my defence, the snap caps came with the gun/s when I purchased them privately along with a bunch of other associated stuff from a chap who was not renewing his SGC. However rest assured, the snap caps are no longer in the gun. 😆

Thanks and I think I know what happened. To test your theory of cocking before ejecting (which is I agree completely logical) I have fired and broken the gun mm by mm and it does cock before ejecting. Soooooo, I can only assume that with the gun fired and snap caps in, I got home, removed the forend and THEN broke the gun. Doh!!! The daft part is i only had the gun out because its not been out of the cabinet for many years and I wanted to double check it was 100% as I need to get it sold and create cabinet space.

Update @JohnfromUK and all, I am glad to report that cocking the gun manually was a reasonably straightforward process and all parties returned unscathed. It required a reasonable degree of force but with the butt and mechanism in a vice, the butt held in one hand and the butt slightly elevated so the cocking rods were flat level, it was a straight push back with the head of a pin hammer wrapped in insulating tape. FWIW, the lower barrel required less force than the upper barrel. As to why it happens, the gun must eject and then cock? Thus the problem occurs if cartridges/snap caps eject, you then don't follow through to cocking and instead close and disassemble the gun without the gun cocked and the firing pins retracted. Every day is a school day.

And @JohnfromUK I think you are correct regards cocking, it has to be a straight push, although a fair amount of force would be needed if you thing about the weight of a fore end c/w barrels. The attached images show the forend offered up to the mechanism. If you then rotate the forend down, it moves away from the mechanism. when fitted it would stay tight and cock the gun. Thats at least how it looks to me. I feel I can but try (with great care) to push back and cock one barrel at a time, using timber products and a protected vice. In the second image you can see just how far out the firing pin is compared to the top barrel.

I double checked and also tried a couple of spent cartridges, however it's the bottom edge of the barrels that are fouling the firing pin, so prior to the cartridges making contact. This image shows the faint mark on the underside of the barrels. If i get to that stage I will probably just get the gunsmith to look at it again. Thanks.

Guilty as charged on the snap caps. Having opened the gun c/w snap caps fired, I am guessing the snap caps flying out and hitting the wall, distracted me enough to not continue on to full open and cocking.

No, not said gunsmith. Right now I would settle for being able to reassemble it. I assume there is no way to cock it and retract the firing pins? What hope is there that the firing pins are identical, If swapped the longer pin would not foul the gun if it were in the top.

Its an Emilio Rizzini Sporter and the pins are sprung. When you press them you feel the spring pushing back.

Long story short. Many years ago I had a local gunsmith replace a broken firing pin in the bottom barrel of a 12g O/U I have. Since then I have discovered that the firing pin is marginally too long. This means that if you dissasemble the gun to clean the barrels, with the gun uncocked and the firing pins in the fired position, when you try to fit the barrels back onto the stock, as you close the gun the barrels snag and hang up on the bottom firing pin. Is there any way to cock the gun to retract the firing pins and enable the barrels to be reinstalled? Hopefully that made sense. Thanks in advance.

Gun Now Sold . Thanks.

You have a PM. Thanks.

Sorry, all the chokes that I have are as pictured and are included in the sale, namely Full, IM, M, M, IC and IC. Thanks.

As I have had some questions about the gun, the condition and the referenced lack of use, I will explain. I got my SGC 20+ years ago, buying a farmers old AYA S/S immediately and then quickly acquiring a Baikal U/O soon after, putting both to use ferreting. Whilst perfectly happy with the Baikal and the AYA, very soon after I had the opportunity to buy the two Rizzinis that I currently have from a guy who had been working overseas on contract for a while, who was relocating more permanently and whose SGC was up for renewal. I had already toyed with the idea of doing clays and really liked the look and feel of the Rizzinis, so to cover what I understood to be all the bases with clays, I bought both of the guns. With work and other commitments I never did find time to do clays back then. In addition, having had the Rizzinis checked over by a gunsmith post purchase, it was pointed out to me that the guns were both left handed. I am right handed! Thus both Rizzinis became rack fillers. Any questions, please ask.

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