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  1. 2.41m is English No7, corresponding to 340 pellets per oz, 2.6mm is No 6 corresponding to No 6 and 270 pellets per Oz, whilst 6.5 is 2.5mm and approximately 305 pellets per oz. The Halliwell table has the shot diameter and pellets per Oz correct but the English sizing incorrect and as it also shows a No 2, a B but does not show a No1
  2. BASC ready to fight legal challenge to rearing and releasing gamebirds This morning (18 July) Wild Justice, the crowd-funded extremist anti-shooting campaign, announced that it was writing to Defra to challenge the release of pheasants and partridges on the grounds that these conflicted with the requirements of the Habitats Directive. BASC believes that the Wild Justice case is weak, misinterprets European law and ignores the benefits of shooting to the environment. We have instructed lawyers that, if any legal action results, BASC should be registered as an 'interested party' to oppose the claim. We have also briefed supportive MPs and Peers, who have spoken to the government and have received assurances that any legal challenge will be "robustly defended". In a statement issued to the press, Caroline Bedell, BASC’s executive director of conservation, said: “This is another extremist attack on shooting by those associated with the League Against Cruel Sports that ignores the well-documented evidence of the benefits of shooting to conservation and the wider environment. “The Code of Good Shooting Practice, which sets out the framework for sustainable shooting, includes reference to Game and Wildlife Conservation Trust research which sets out figures for sustainable game bird releasing that do not damage the environment. “Studies show that well-managed shooting is of benefit to the environment and conservation organisations and the government has acknowledged the benefit of shooting to the environment. For example, shoots maintain 25,000 hectares of cover crops which provide important sources of food and shelter for songbirds, particularly during the winter, and shoots actively manage 500,000 hectares of woodland and 100,000 hectares of copses for the benefit of the environment. "Shooting influences 14 million hectares of rural land management and almost two million hectares are actively managed for conservation. It is estimated that shooting provides for 3.9 million work days being spent on conservation each year, which is the equivalent of 16,000 full-time conservation jobs. “Without driven shooting the rural environment, and our economy, would be significantly poorer.”
  3. Bug a Salt is more fun
  4. Bob, All shooting is a combination of skill of the shooter and environment mixed with chance as we cannot measure and control everything but, which we seek to minimise any variablity and each person has their own boundary as to what is acceptable and not acceptable. I am merely pointing out that the shot Stu undertook was less of a risk than the general standard of shotgun shooting accepted across the board i.e. it is 50/50 that any bird is hit with a shotgun (which also has a much higher risk of injury rather than a clean miss such as with a pellet or bullet) Stu had the advantage in that he was repeating a shot which he had previously practiced which is the key to accuracy and he was confident of hitting the target. In the above case the pellet was still within the lethal zone (given the power level of the pellet/slug) and therefore did it's job. Like Stu, I also shoot long range pellet/bullet guns and have had quite a few debates over the level of reliability/repeatability of any one shot. Given the equipment (including a wind speed monitor), chance/variability, I also according to traditional theory push the range of what I shoot, sub 12 .25 to 40 yards, sub 12 .22 to 50 yards, 22lr subsonic to 180yds, 223 to 600 yds, 308 800 to1000 yds but have yet to have any shot where I would question the fact I took it in the first place. In many cases this means operating outside the comfort zone of a lot of shooters (a lot of whom are point and shoot i.e. operating under Mean Point Blank Range), but I do not and I am happy operating with drops of 39 inches in 22lr, 18ft with 308 etc but have yet to have any shot where I would question the fact I took it in the first place as tehrer is a clear choice between 'ckallenging' and 'fluky'. Personally, I do not (and neither do I believe does Stu) take shots which rely on chance or fluke to kill but try to use what skill I have to ensure a clean shot.
  5. If it is fixed choke, are there any '***' stars?
  6. Stu, Well done with the shot. Don't worry about the naysayers, as it has been raised before the average shotgun cartridge to kill ration in the UK is somewhere around 5:1, the top amateurs 10% manage 2:1 and the top professionsals 1.2:1. Of the birds shot, some 20% are injured and not killed outright but this appears to be conveniently ignored by some.
  7. Yep, my franchi multichoke has the bore diameterers stamped on the barrel block.
  8. I caught the Hull guy at Scone Game Fair and queried him on lack of No 7 loads (especially for pigeon) and the large shot sizes in 410 loads which were not appropriate for the calibre, but basically it came down to profits (demand) and that unless he could shift 10k a week of any one loading they were not interested.
  9. I suspect the problem isn't the gun itself but the multichokes which are not strong enough (or tolerances are not good enough) to resist the bulging effect resulting in stuck chokes, hence the prohibition on steel use.
  10. Steel shot does not blow up fix choked barrels, there is a possibility that due to over constriction that steel pellets may force themselves through plastic wad and score barrels and if you fired 10,000 shells you may end up removing the choke or causing slight bulging on steep tapered chokes , neither of which is going to injure the Shooter.
  11. In ye olde days of black powder, damascus and soft lead, a square load kept the pressure down (less than 6000psi) when fired, minimising set back (shot compression and distortion caused by the chamber pressure) and poor patterns and it made sense to use a shotgun with a squared load and using a different bore for loads depending on the proposed gun use. With modern shot with 3% antimony for standard loads and 5% for magnum loads, which can cope with 11600psi and 14,000psi respectively it is no longer a requirement.
  12. Standard steel, no issue, hp steel no
  13. I use a laser cartridge bore sighter to check alignment, only need barrels which should be fixed (clamp, vice sandbag) on target, insert laser catridge in same position in both barrels (i. E. Don't rotate it between barrels) and mark location on target board, which should give a good idea of POI of both barrels
  14. The Eley Magnum is available in subsonic but to be honest, the standard cartridge is almost as quiet and a lot easier to get hold of.
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