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I've shot thos 24 grm bornaghi carts.
They are ridiculously quiet in a hushpower. 410 but they don't kill birds beyond 15 yds as the shot is only doing around 700 fps at the muzzle
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Muck boots
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I'm not sure many 17 hmr s are used sub 20 yds . That's where I see 4x mag as useful. 3x for around 10 - 15 yds .
6 x for around 30 yds 9x up to around 50 yds max and 12x for up to maybe 80 yds I like 16 x for 100 yds and more mag maybe 24 x for anything above 130 yds .
That's me and my opinion I know some people feel 4x if perfect for shooting out to 500 yds .and it probably is if your shooting at the side of barns but for rabbits /crows rats etc(hmr quarry) a bit more precision is required I feel .and the above will serve you well .
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I actually really like the airmax scopes they tend to be excellent optically .32x will be a big scope could make the gun a bit top heavy. Depends on your gun really and how you shoot? if off a bi pod probably not an issue personally I think 16 x would be enough mag for a 17. Or 24x if you fancy pushing out beyond 150 yds .the 32 x will certainly give you some useful aim points for bullet drop out to 300 yds if thats your thing .?
My 24x airmax is mrad I find it good for dialing in the shot for long range seems to work well .
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I have to say I'd love a 28 gauge I'd probably also use the high pheasant 23 grm no 7 .as they are mustard in .my .410 ou at 18 grm of no 7 . That extra bit more lead of 5 grms would probably give me another 5 yds range over the .410 and be all the gun I could ever need for my shooting .
It's just the price and availability of carts and an inpending lead ban that puts me off .
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Yeah recreate 2005 please
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I remember using 1/2 penny coins to go to the corner shop .to by sweets . There were a few that were 1/2 p each 7.5 p got me enough for the walk home .
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Be prepared for the frustration that is winter rape shooting . You can be in exactly the right field and place and time .and they will drop in on the opposite end of the field . 1 shot to lift them and they disappear for the next 3 hours . I've never had a bag over 15 on rape . But it is fun to try and gets us out on even to wildest of winter. days .
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Brilliant thank you .
Really enjoyed looking at the adverts especially the tempest .
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Go on share some more pages from it.
Adverts .articles etc
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Expensive .
Everybody now charges more for everything as everybody's costs have gone up .it's a pass it on vicious circle .called inflation .
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I have a kofs .410 .I really like it I take it to the clay ground over the 12 or 20 as its more fun to shoot .been very reliable so far and my boy shoots it well also .
I dont know how they are in 12b .though your looking at the steel action zenith not the alloy sceptre which I would not recommend in 12 b as it would be too light weight .
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OK. That is expensive. I will pass .
I was expecting around £900
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Take a look also at the armsan a612 and a 620 cheap and better built than an escort . My a 620 has been perfect for years .
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13 hours ago, Mice! said:
Yeah but have you seen the price 😳😳
Nope .what is it .?
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Because its easier to stop them coming in than getting them back out .
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Ooooh very nice .
I likey likey 😍
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That's a bargain . Sure it will get snapped up .
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That's a bit nice .
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So putting the correct info chairgun.the 33 grn pellet with a .038 bc and 24 grn with .035 bc (about correct for what I've found ) with no zero altering between pellets the 33 grn will drop around 10 inch more at 100 yds compared to the 24 grn .with the 33 grn optimised for pbr at 45 yds (the 24 grn is zeroed at 50 yds in my bullpup gun . The drop at 100 yds is still around 5 - 6 inches more than the 24 grn pellet. This is too much in my book for a fac gun .my .177 fac doesn't drop that much with a 8.4 grn jsb .at 16 fpe .
Unless your gonna push those 33 grn pellets at 60 - 70 fpe you won't see a flat trajectory .and that's gonna drink air so bad .also those heavy slug like pellets bounce like a 40 grn .22 lr . So you have to be very mindful of back stops and fallout . Might as well just have a .22 lr they are cheaper and easier to work with than a 70 fpe puffgun.
Let me correct that to 57 fpe for the 33 grn pellet .it's still a lot more energy than 44 fpe of the 24 grn . With probably around double the air usage.
If your fx is actually capable of getting that high . Mine is only possible by changing the reg out for a bigger one .
Yours may be different I don't know .
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I thought the trajectories of the 2 pellets would be similar also with the lighter 24 grn being just a bit flatter .
I tried it and was horrified at the amount of drop with the 33 grn compared to the 24 .it was so much it was like shooting a sub 12 airgun .
Not what I want from a fac airgun. Also accuracy was a bit worse especially at plus 70 yds where any bc difference would have started to show ..
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The thing I found with .25 cal .
Is even with 24 grn pellets at around 45 +fpe . You already have enough power ,bc and retained energy do do virtually anything you want to quarry and targets . But if you use a slow heavy projectile like the 33 grn pellet you give away essential velocity and trajectory for more power , when you already have more than enough.
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I use a .25 mk1 wildcat .with 25 .4 grn jsb grn pellets I get 880 fps .
26 grn fx pellets were slower around 800 fps if I remember .performance wasn't as good as pellets . So I stick to pellets now I gave up on slugs in all my fac airguns and went back to much more reliable pellets .
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HW57
in Airgunners
The original pop up breech was plastic and was prone to misalignment and hence damage pellets that flew everywhere. Think that's been solved .
Obviously it didn't effect every gun but the ones it did were terrible .
Eley 3" subsonic cartridges
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Exactly .you better shooting an 11 grm load which is plenty quiet enough but at least the shot that hits the bird is going fast enough to do damage and kill the bird .I often use 11 grm hull clay and game carts .they travel around 1200 fps and ive dropped pige at 25 yds plus .but to be fair 20 yds is a more realistic range for them but at least they kill and they are cheaper also .