gibby Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I was wondering if anyone can help with a cert situation. I run the Sheffield University shooting team and we have our annual inter uni championship coming up in the new year. The ground where it is held has stated that only shotgun certificate holders are allowed to shoot and they must be produced. This doesn't matter to a few of us, but there are some members who do not hold one, hence will be unable to shoot. Is the ground able to enforce this? Or can we use the stance that I have a cert therefore they under my instruction, i'm sure there's a clause for this but not too sure on the specifics. Any advice welcome. Regards Gibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Section 11(6) of the Firearm Act 1968 allows non-licence holders to shoot at approved grounds, holding a Section 11(6) Licence. West Midlands Shooting Ground has one of these. This is what allows new shooters to actually turn up at a local ground and "have a go". In my view, there is no need for BUCS' rule. All stands at the shoot will be manned by approved, qualified referees and the ground will be supervised by at least two CPSA qualified Club Safety Officers. This is sufficient at registered competitions, county championships and even national championships, where no certificate is required within the rules. The conditions at BUCS will be far more organised at stringent than at smaller, local clubs who have a Police-granted Section 11(6) Licence. If I were to concede anything to BUCS, it would be that perhaps: "That at least one member of the team must be a licence holder" or "Club captains must be licence holders". This would at least affirm that all shooters are being suitably supervised. I have just sent this to Sean, I think the rule is barmy. I will be taking it up with BUCS on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Unless the conditions of the section 11(5) exemption apply, it is not legal to accompany a non-sgc holder at any venue that does not hold an 11(6). At an 11(6) venue, the non-licensed shooters must have the authority of the holder of the 11(6) who delegates responsibility to some-one they beleive to be competent. That may be restricted to their own coach or resident club members, a casual shooter even with a SGC has no authority to supervise a non SGC holder even at an 11(6) ground without the authority being delegated by the 11(6) holder or their acting appointee. If the ground does not have an 11(6), they would be breaking the law to allow non-sgc's to shoot even accompanied. The ground is clearly careful not to allow the law to be broken, and completely within the spirit of legislation to insist on their policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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