300 winchester short magnum

[whitehackle]

I have been looking at all the different rounds for shoting deer and this bullet looks good.

 

I wanted to ask if anyone has experiance of shooting one of these? Iv looked on guntrader and this dose not look like a popular round.

 

thanks

[Loki]

Wotcha

 

I have used a friends and its ok - but it may not be everyones choice due to perceived recoil, noise (although this can be attennuated by use of a moderator), etc.

 

The weight should be less as it built around a medium size action rather than a large/magnum one.

 

I have had a .300WM for many years and use it as necessary.

 

The WSM flavour will reload with a variety of bullets and weights for fine tuning and should do this with less powder...

 

There will be views on 'meat damage', overkill etc........

[whitehackle]

I was under the inpresion that a fater bullet was better? To do with more powder being close to the primer?

I have been looking through my reloading book and at 150 gr it seems to be one of the fastest? faster than the 30-06. Just not the range of choice of bullet weight. But what it will shot it seems to do well.

 

How big a bullet do most people use for red deer? and what about wild boar?

 

I'v looked in my reloading book and it says that a 300 WSM will shoot 220 gr bullet at 2597 fps, 300 WM 220gr bullet 2331fps and 30-06 220gr bullet 2380fps

 

Thanks

Edited January 12, 2010 by jclowes

[njc110381]

I'v looked in my reloading book and it says that a 300 WSM will shoot 220 gr bullet at 2597 fps, 300 WM 220gr bullet 2331fps and 30-06 220gr bullet 2380fps

 

Thanks

 

 

Those figures seem extremely low. Are they start loads? A .300 Weatherby will send a 220grn bullet at 2900+ fps. Even the '06 will do 2500+.

 

If you don't want too much meat damage use a heavier bullet with a tougher construction. It wont splat as much.

[whitehackle]

start load of "h1000" 69.0gr max load 72.5gr. this is from modern reloading second edition.

 

Why couldnt you shoot 220gr bullets with a 300 WSM? like people are saying.

 

thanks

[swift4me]

I'm not a loader, but in my store I have sold many 300 WSMs as it was very popular in the states since it came out. In fact of the Remington Short Action Ultra Mags, WSMs and WSSMs and all other short magnums introduced, the 300 WSM has gotten the most traction and is available in more flavors from the commercial ammo manufacturers.

 

We have so many wildcat cartridges there that the whole "short fat" thing has been around a long time. Of the guns I sold, eight or ten were to serious loaders who owned many high grade custom rifles and they liked them for acuracy and killing. Obviously the hunting world would survive without it, but....

 

I do not know anyone who went above 180 gr bullets though. Even for elk, and plains game in Africa, I didn't hear of anyone going 220 in the WSM. Many used 165s for elk and deer, preferring the velocity and using good bullets that would hold together.

 

My best friend, a lifelong loader and serious big game hunter, (several grizzlies, lots of huge elk, etc.) shots a wildcat called the 300 Thunder. .308 bullet on a Remington 8mm mag case. Balistically hotter than any other .308 chambering except the Lazzeroni, (.308 bullet on a .416 Rigby case), and for the Alaskan bears he still used 180s.

 

Someone who mentioned the good bullets is definitely right. Too often people spend less time worrying about this than they do about accuracy or velocity.

 

Just my thoughts.

 

Pete