timps Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I've just done the same - he'll be bamboozled with his new popularity :unsure: I was :unsure: I thought I was popular until I found out you were just after my Lancashire roots haha...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Out of interest what do expect the difference in revenue would be? Could it possibly be offset by the additional cost of entry a to registered shoot? In "per entry" terms the revenue is the same - a competition Registered shoot card costs more only because a prize fund is added. Nothing is paid to the CPSA, the price of the card is the clays only price to the ground plus the (optional) addition for entering into the prize fund. County / Regional championships may have a local levy added, but this goes to the county/regional committees and is not part of any HQ CPSA funds. How-ever, over-all day revenue can be quite different. At a club shoot ( non-registered) the ground can elect to have squads button and/or score themselves - saving considerably on manpower - and they don't need a laptop and a person manning it for return of the scores electronically through the CPSA program ( which is very difficult to use and one reason many grounds ditched Reg when use of the program and electronic scoring became compulsory a few years back). This means either a ground earns less net from a registered shoot because of manpower differences ( wages), or they can charge less on a pure club shoot because of the saving. The latter of course means that club shoots may be £5-00 /100 or so less just on the manpower economics. Further, as a Registered shoot is technically restricted to: Full CPSA members, Clubman members shooting at their nominated ground, and Day Ticket Holders ( for those few grounds that use this system), the market place for a registered shoot is tiny compared with the market place for a club shoot. Very loosely, there are 100,000 clay shooters in the UK, 30,000 in CPSA, WCTSA, SCTSA, of which only about 10,000 are regular Reg shooters - so the Reg shoot market place is only around 10% of the open shoot market place. These 10,000 are a niche market, and some grounds can do well putting on shoots to cater for their needs - but the average 28 day GDO shoot, or smaller weekly club will struggle to attract the numbers required to make a Reg shoot viable, and the "Day Ticket" solution the CPSA presented to allow non-cpsa members to shoot along side Reg members at a formal reg shoot has not been adopted by many grounds and does not appear to me to have increased the availability of Reg shoots. Bottom line is all economics. A big ground servicing County Championships like Southdown / Sthn Counties / National Clays - will have regular Reg shoots, but a smaller ground will find that putting on a Reg shoots reduces entry based on the restrictions of eligibility to enter, and probable card price differences reflected by manpower requirements. Ground owners are business people, and they look at the bottom line. Registered shoots loose out purely on the economics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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