A complete novice wants a ESS working dog help

[ccc812]

Hi all,

 

I am a complete novice and would love to get a ESS pup as a working dog.

 

Can anyone help me find a ESS in the south west of england.

 

Does it help to have parents who are FTch and good blood lines.

 

recommended books for starting out with a pup and training her.

 

Any help would be very much appreciated.

 

 

regards

 

Chris

[KillStone]

i was asking a similar question on here a couple of weeks ago. i too thought i wanted an ESS however i was informed on here along with the guidance from the parents that i should consider a lab. as a result i have bought a lab as of sunday (!!!!) and think it will be perfect. the reason for this is that i was told reliably and consistently that both dogs are capable of all the required jobs but that the ESS would be too hard to handle for a novice i.e. me or u! It's entirely up to u obviously but pls pls pls think of other breeds other than ur first idea as although i found it hard i realised the arguments weighed them up for my circumstances and have-hopefully-made the right decision!! gd luck watever u choose.

[MC]

Yes it does help if the parents are working dogs or Ftch but it isn't essential. As long as you are prepared to put the time in then an ESS is an ideal dog to start with.

 

I did and although Merlin will never win a field trial he is a great shooting dog.

 

With regards to books there are several, Training spaniels by Keith Erlandson is a good one as is Training and field trials by P R Moxon. THere are several more but I cannot think of them at the moment.

 

I also have a DVD if you want to send me your address I will post to you.

[Sprocket]

Hi all,

 

I am a complete novice and would love to get a ESS pup as a working dog.

 

Can anyone help me find a ESS in the south west of england.

 

Does it help to have parents who are FTch and good blood lines.

 

recommended books for starting out with a pup and training her.

 

Any help would be very much appreciated.

 

 

regards

 

Chris

Chris -where do you live?

My mate breeds and trials ESS,Labs, Cockers.

We live in the Bristol/Swindon area and are always prepared to help.

If you're local, You are welcome to have a look at our dogs working, and decide if they are the type of dog you are looking for or not.

Don,t be put off a Springer for a first dog, it depends on how you train it, and also how you are trained.

At the end of the day, if you put the time in, and listen to what you are being told, there is no reason why you can't end up with what you are looking for.

[Spaniel]

joe irving as some good books which you can find on amazon.co.uk

Yep springers can be a handfull, but they are great to work

You want a springer to have plenty of drive for hunting but yes this can mean they can be a handful at home, both mine are in the house (in the kitchen) and they dont give me that much prob to be honest.

All depends what you plan on doing with the dog , i do a bit of rough shooting so they are idea but im also looking at a lab to train up for wildfowling..

 

What will you be doing with the dog?

[MC]

I use my Springer for wildfowling which is where he excels. I have not lost a bird on the marsh since I have had him.

 

I believe the only difference between the breeds is which one you prefer. I ahve seen some bloody headstrong and disobedient labs as well.

 

As I said earlier you will get out what you are prepared to put in. A lab won't be anygood unless you put the time in, because the ******** about being born half trained is exactly that ********.

[ccc812]

Thanks for all your replys.

I have set my heart on a spaniel which i want as a working dog, rough shooting, maybe game shooting picking up or beating.

 

I live in bristol, sprocket, i may take you up on that, as i would love to see them working and have so many questions to ask.

 

I have found a breeder who has a ESS ready in June so this gives me time to prepare.

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

Chris

[ccc812]

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[MC]

Chris

 

I will post it tomorrow

 

Cheers

 

Martin

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[ziplex]

Thanks for all your replys.

I have set my heart on a spaniel which i want as a working dog, rough shooting, maybe game shooting picking up or beating.

 

I live in bristol, sprocket, i may take you up on that, as i would love to see them working and have so many questions to ask.

 

I have found a breeder who has a ESS ready in June so this gives me time to prepare.

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

Chris

 

 

Chris, One thing i'd mention about getting a pup is always ask to see the Mother at least to help gauge temperament and give an indication to size...in your case these pups will still be with theirs. The Springer I have now is a nervy dog who, whilst great to train/obidient, is very nervous of other dogs and I can't seem to crack it, (tryed puppy/training classes etc etc). Also she was 16 weeks when I got her and what with an infection setting in I couldn't get her jabs done for a while which resulted in her being nearly 5 months before being outdoors properly....not good

 

I decided on another Springer after a long wait since losing my last one with this one, rush purchased and made a mistake. Make sure the pup is not too backward in coming forward, get to see the parent if possible and don't buy at an older age! I haven't give up on her in any way but her nervousness has hampered training.

 

Good luck