cockercas Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 hi i have a 12 month old cocker she is a cracking dog dose anything you ask sit stay ect but she will not retrive i have tride everything and now it is driving me crazy any ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplex Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) hi i have a 12 month old cocker she is a cracking dog dose anything you ask sit stay ect but she will not retrive i have tride everything and now it is driving me crazy any ideas Do you mean she won't bring the dummy/ball back or just doesn't show interest in going after it initially? Welcome by the way! Edited June 8, 2010 by ziplex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted June 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 she will go for it and pick up but as soon as i give a command to fech she drops it or runs around me in a circle and drops it behind me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplex Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 she will go for it and pick up but as soon as i give a command to fech she drops it or runs around me in a circle and drops it behind me Try a hallway and have your back against the wall, or sit against a fence. Don't grab the dummy....let her hold onto it a while then gently take it. There will be a few that can offer more/better advice but it's a start. My Springer started to run behind me but this sorted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted June 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 thanks i tride the hallway thing but she drops it 8-10 foot in front of me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplex Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 thanks i tride the hallway thing but she drops it 8-10 foot in front of me Try running backwards away from her, calling her as you go? It might be worth trying really short retrieves as well, literally a few feet away to get her confidence up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyR Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Might not be much help but my 3yr old cocker is rubbish on dummies. Picks them up, drops them halfway back or brings then to within about 10ft of me, then drops them. Game though, now that is a different story. Live or cold, always brings them to hand - sometimes doesn't want to let go. No bad thing in my book. They are just too smart sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuey Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 cockercas, mine is the same age, and does exactly the same thing. Give her the command to get a thrown dummy and away she goes with gusto, hunting it out in thick cover, before returning only to drop it 4/5 ft away then continues running right up to me. Stopeed retrieving at the mo as it is driving me mad!!! Bought a lunge lead but not sure if/how this could be used to correct the problem. cheers Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 guess what. i have been having the same problems. 21mths old and he doesn't like dummies now. he will pick them but just spits them waiting for the next one. pigeons he brings to hand but spits them into hand. the odd runner gets a second chance. this last few weeks he has been changing, slowing down a little and starting to think it seams. he has a ball on a rope that he loves so i have been teaching the hold command which he is getting there with. today is the first time, outdoors, with out treats, that i have had 3 retrieves where he has come to me and with a big sit hand signal he is sitting in front of me and holding the ball. small steps and i WILL get there with him. in hindsight, what i should have done was teach him that holding things is good and not take them out off his mouth to quick, lesson learnt for the next pup i guess. Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Retrieving is just recall whilst carrying something, lay off retrieving for a week or two and work on strengthening the recall to a fast return with a sit in the position you would expect a delivery from if she were retrieving. How many retrieves are you doing with her in a week? Spitting or playing about can be a sign of too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampinglad Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 i agree leave off it for a little wile dogs can soon get bored i stick to 5 retrieves a day with the dummy then leave it till the next day i start retrieving at about 3 months old and by 6 month of age its to a good standard then its just a matter of keeping it fresh in the dogs head and may be a bit of a refresher now and again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted June 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 thanks for advice i have tride running away and as soon as i stop she decides to lay down and chew also she is spot on with the recall she is 100% on sit,stay,lay down ect just the retriving prob untill she retrives i cannot progress her training witch is why it is driving me mad she sorts of dose it indoors she will pick up and with a bit of encoragement bring it and drop to command then when we do the same outside she wont do it and i have tride with minimum of distractions on concreet but to no avail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Are you using tennis balls or conventional dummies? And again, how many times are you offering a retrieve? As I said before, leave it a couple of weeks and when you try again try and find something she really responds to and want - an old toy, a sock, a bit of rolled up carpet or an old piece of bedding? Really wind her up with it before offering the retrieve, throw it and allow her to run in - basically have her as enthusiatic about you and whatever is on offer to retrieve before throwing the retrieve. Keep the distance short, only a few yards, and get down low for her returning to you and encourage her in with your most excited girly voice. Don't take the retrieve as soon as she returns, give her lots of praise with the retrieve in her mouth, don't worry about a sitting delivery just get her into to while carrying. Don't accept or pick the retrieve yourself if she spits it, move away and call her in again - if she comes without the retrieve ignore her and move back towards where she's spat it encouraging her to pick it. Try it once, if she succeeds then stop and do NOT do anymore more for another week or so. Just out of interest, did you start her retrieving as a pup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted June 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Are you using tennis balls or conventional dummies? And again, how many times are you offering a retrieve? As I said before, leave it a couple of weeks and when you try again try and find something she really responds to and want - an old toy, a sock, a bit of rolled up carpet or an old piece of bedding? Really wind her up with it before offering the retrieve, throw it and allow her to run in - basically have her as enthusiatic about you and whatever is on offer to retrieve before throwing the retrieve. Keep the distance short, only a few yards, and get down low for her returning to you and encourage her in with your most excited girly voice. Don't take the retrieve as soon as she returns, give her lots of praise with the retrieve in her mouth, don't worry about a sitting delivery just get her into to while carrying. Don't accept or pick the retrieve yourself if she spits it, move away and call her in again - if she comes without the retrieve ignore her and move back towards where she's spat it encouraging her to pick it. Try it once, if she succeeds then stop and do NOT do anymore more for another week or so. Just out of interest, did you start her retrieving as a pup? yes she used to retrive but then just stoped one sunday and she has never done it again and i am using everything as a retrive. balls, balls coverd in skin, dummys, dummys with skin/wings attached, socks ,socks with hot dogs in and a hessien sack witch i am starting to get a few retrives with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 yes she used to retrive but then just stoped one sunday and she has never done it again and i am using everything as a retrive. balls, balls coverd in skin, dummys, dummys with skin/wings attached, socks ,socks with hot dogs in and a hessien sack witch i am starting to get a few retrives with why put the hotdogs in the sock. in a small area sit the dog next to you and give a tiny amount of hotdog to her, then throw sock/dummy/ball/anything then see if she will go get it for a food reward. you might have to play with differant food to find the key, mine is chicken. just be a little careful or your turn the retrieves in to bribery rather than play. my cocker wouldn't retrieve anything so i have to do it this way, one i got the retrieve for food i then started to do 1 retrieve for food and one for praise then 2 praise and one food, carried on doing this until i had the retrieve for praise and not food. i went to 3 differant trainers and none could sort it as the dog is very head strong, food has had a good result, not 100% yet but close. Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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